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tjones1 Thu Apr 19, 2007 02:00am

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Originally Posted by mick
:cool: <TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=section_medium><TD class=black12bold align=middle colSpan=8>Seattle</TD></TR><TR><TD class=black12bold width="30%">Name</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">IP</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">H</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">R</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">ER</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">BB</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">SO</TD><TD class=black12bold align=right width="10%">ERA</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc colSpan=8 height=1>http://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD class=black11>J Weaver (L, 0-2) </TD><TD class=black11 align=right>6</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>10</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>7</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>7</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>1</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>3</TD><TD class=black11 align=right>15.75</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#cccccc colSpan=8 height=1>http://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

He should have stayed put with Duncan.

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 19, 2007 02:01am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Speaking of pitchers, in looking at the DL's of all the clubs, every club except 3 (White Sox, Brewers, and Giants) have at least one pitcher on the DL, most have 2 or 3, and some teams (...cough...Yankees...cough...) have as many as <B>six</B> pitchers on the DL. :eek:

Maybe run production will be going up this year?

I don't care what team you're a fan of, if you're a <i>beisbol</i> fan you gotta hope that the M's Felix Hernandez is OK. The kid is special; great to watch. He left his start last night with elbow problems.

Nevadaref Thu Apr 19, 2007 05:18am

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=560 border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=10 height=19>NO-hitter!!!!!!!!!

Chi White Sox

</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody2 align=right><TD width="32%" height=18></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="19%" colSpan=2>Season ERA </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left>M. Buehrle (W, 1-0)</TD><TD>9.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2.08</TD><TD width=8></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


He just missed a perfect game by issuing one walk. He promptly picked-off the only man to reach base, and thus faced the minimum of 27 batters.

M&M Guy Thu Apr 19, 2007 09:23am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=560 border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=10 height=19>NO-hitter!!!!!!!!!

Chi White Sox

</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody2 align=right><TD width="32%" height=18></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="7%">HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="19%" colSpan=2>Season ERA </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left>M. Buehrle (W, 1-0)</TD><TD>9.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2.08</TD><TD width=8></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


He just missed a perfect game by issuing one walk. He promptly picked-off the only man to reach base, and thus faced the minimum of 27 batters.

And, as an interesting side note, the only person to reach base was Sammy Sosa, and he's the one that got picked off. Since the game was in Chicago, I wonder what kind of reaction Sammy received.

M&M Guy Thu Apr 19, 2007 09:46am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I don't care what team you're a fan of, if you're a <i>beisbol</i> fan you gotta hope that the M's Felix Hernandez is OK. The kid is special; great to watch. He left his start last night with elbow problems.

I had not heard that - that's too bad. You're right though, it is fun to watch great players perform. I hope he's ok the rest of the season (well, at least until the Mariners/Cubs World Series...:D)

It does make me wonder if there really is a correaltion to the obsession with pitch counts, and all the injuries. <font color = red><font size =-3>(WARNING - The following is an Old Person Alert)</font size></font color> Back in my day, there were many more complete games and more innings pitched, with seemingly fewer overall injuries. Now along comes Dice-K, with his pitching routine, also similarly injury-free. Is he just a freak of nature, or is it possible he represents what could happen if more pitchers followed the same routine? Are current pitchers actually being hurt by limiting their throwing, rather than the other way around?

mick Thu Apr 19, 2007 03:59pm

Caption indicates Coco and Manny are celebrating Manny's HR.
Does Coco really want to be there?

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...19/redsoxx.jpg

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 19, 2007 06:25pm

Down 6-2 going into the bottom of the 9th.....

Had 'em right where we wanted 'em!:D

Adam Thu Apr 19, 2007 06:29pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
I had not heard that - that's too bad. You're right though, it is fun to watch great players perform. I hope he's ok the rest of the season (well, at least until the Mariners/Cubs World Series...:D)

It does make me wonder if there really is a correaltion to the obsession with pitch counts, and all the injuries. <font color = red><font size =-3>(WARNING - The following is an Old Person Alert)</font size></font color> Back in my day, there were many more complete games and more innings pitched, with seemingly fewer overall injuries. Now along comes Dice-K, with his pitching routine, also similarly injury-free. Is he just a freak of nature, or is it possible he represents what could happen if more pitchers followed the same routine? Are current pitchers actually being hurt by limiting their throwing, rather than the other way around?

My impression was that while Dice-K throws more innings per outing (at least he did in Japan), he is used to more rest between starts.

dblref Fri Apr 20, 2007 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Down 6-2 going into the bottom of the 9th.....

Had 'em right where we wanted 'em!:D

All's well that ends well.:D Better than being down 4 runs in the top of the 9th.

M&M Guy Fri Apr 20, 2007 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
My impression was that while Dice-K throws more innings per outing (at least he did in Japan), he is used to more rest between starts.

If you could call it rest. It's true he went sometimes 7 days between starts, but it's the training in between starts that was impressive. I don't remember all the details, but I thought I heard he did much more than American pitchers, such as long toss at 200 - 300 feet, where US pitchers do 100 -200 feet, bullpen sessions of 100+ pitches, etc. These are all things that would get a MLB pitching coach fired these days. In fact, I believe Boston had to negotiate out some of these training items with his agent.

My point is he seems to survive/thrive under that type of training, and pitchers back before, say 1970, would laugh at a thing called a pitch count, so maybe we've gone too far in "protecting" today's pitchers? I'm just wondering if things have been dialed back so much that injuries are more likely to happen now, rather than less.

But, then again, I'm not a doctor, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

M&M Guy Fri Apr 20, 2007 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Down 6-2 going into the bottom of the 9th.....

Had 'em right where we wanted 'em!:D

So, you think A-Rod can keep doing it all weekend?

He'll need to, since it looks like the Yanks have Moe, Larry, and Curly set up in the rotation...

rockyroad Fri Apr 20, 2007 04:12pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I don't care what team you're a fan of, if you're a <i>beisbol</i> fan you gotta hope that the M's Felix Hernandez is OK. The kid is special; great to watch. He left his start last night with elbow problems.

Looks like he is ok...it's not the Tommy Johns elbow problem...he will miss his next two starts for sure, and then they will go from there. He is fun to watch! The good news is that with Felix out for a few, Weaver will get one more additional start!!! Yippee!! He had an ERA of 42.7 (or something like that) after his first start!

mick Fri Apr 20, 2007 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
So, you think A-Rod can keep doing it all weekend?

He'll need to, since it looks like the Yanks have Moe, Larry, and Curly set up in the rotation...

M&M,
I was wondering who those guys were. Not household names in my yard.

A couple few months ago the talking heads were anticipating an MVP year for A-Rod, and he's really doing well. How can they predict something like that?

rockyroad Fri Apr 20, 2007 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by mick

A couple few months ago the talking heads were anticipating an MVP year for A-Rod, and he's really doing well. How can they predict something like that?

He told them he was finally going to start playing???:rolleyes:

Nevadaref Sat Apr 21, 2007 04:23am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Down 6-2 going into the bottom of the 8th.....

Had 'em right where we wanted 'em!

How prognosticative of you!

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=gamehead><TD colSpan=3>Scoring Summary</TD><TD>NYY</TD><TD>BOS</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>3rd</TD><TD>J Damon grounded out to shortstop, R Cano scored, M Cabrera to third.</TD><TD align=middle>1</TD><TD align=middle>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>4th</TD><TD>A Rodriguez homered to left.</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD><TD align=middle>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>4th</TD><TD>J Varitek homered to right center, M Lowell scored.</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>5th</TD><TD>A Rodriguez homered to right center, D Jeter and B Abreu scored.</TD><TD align=middle>5</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/nyy.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>J Giambi singled to right, A Rodriguez scored.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>2</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>M Lowell singled to left, D Ortiz scored, M Ramirez to third.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>3</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>J Varitek singled to right, M Ramirez scored, M Lowell to second.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>4</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>C Crisp tripled to right, M Lowell and J Varitek scored.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD align=middle>http://espn.starwave.com/i/teamlogos.../trans/bos.gif</TD><TD align=middle>8th</TD><TD>A Cora singled to center, C Crisp scored.</TD><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD align=middle>7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


What goes around comes around. :p


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