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Old Wed Dec 05, 2001, 02:55pm
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Kelvin, by NF rules players are not ejected. They are disqualified. There's nothing in Rules 1-10 or any case plays that states that a player is ejected. You can disqualify him and have him removed from the facility but he's still disqualified, not ejected. (10.5 Situation A)
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2001, 11:39pm
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I agree with you substantially on what the rule book states. However You dont report all disqualified personnel to the State Association. You report the ones who were tossed from the game, (the flagrants and the the 2T's). So I think it maybe more of philosophy on my part to make the distinction. But if you check closely NF does use the term ejection when coaches are sent from the gym (page 61 and 62) players arent ejected anymore since they are not sent out. I also think that in some circumstances NF words things poorly in the name of simplicity or for political correctness so that we do not hurt someone's feelings by ejecting them.
My biggest point was that in response to post I think the maximum number of T's a player and coach can get is two (direct) and that anybosy who wants to give a player their third or fourth T as was suggested is making as much a mockery out of the game as the clown doing it and the officials have stooped to gutter with them. THe rules dont specifically prohibit a referee from calling more than 2 T's on a player but it does specifically allow it. Snce it is not specifically allowed I will not put my self in a situation where the game is a circus, and we are shhoting tons of extra free throws cause a kid is a jerk. They will deal with him.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2001, 11:47pm
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No argument that coaches can be ejected.

With regards to the state assoication, we, too, have ejections for paperwork purposes and distinction when compared with disqualifications.

I think the actual reason that the NF stays away from using the word "ejection" with regards to players is so that they won't be liable or "sue-albe" if an unknowing official ejects a minor from a gym and the minor is subsequently injured in some way.
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Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 01:55am
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bktballref-could you ref. the nc2a rule for ejections of players, i cant seem to find it.
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Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 11:56am
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Originally posted by crew
bktballref-could you ref. the nc2a rule for ejections of players, i cant seem to find it.
(Last year's references)

4-17 defines DQ player.

10-4.5, 10-6.5, 10-8.5,6,7, 10-11.2,4, 10-15 all discuss EJs
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Old Fri Dec 07, 2001, 01:07pm
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does it say where the player goes, lockerroom or just to the bench?
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Old Sat Dec 08, 2001, 10:52pm
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does it say where the player goes, lockerroom or just to the bench?
Yes.
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Old Sat Dec 08, 2001, 11:17pm
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does it say where the player goes, lockerroom or just to the bench?
Yes.
Here are the NCAA rules:

4-20-1 (Ejection):
Ejection is the act of dismissing an individual from participation in a game because of a specific infraction of the rules.

In addition to being disqualified, an individual who is ejected shall leave the playing court and floor area and report to his or her team's locker room until the game is over.

What gets you ejected?
(a) Three technical fouls - 2I/1D, 1I, 2D, 1Int./2I) [10-2-1]
(b) Two direct technical fouls [10-6-4]
(c) A Flagrant Technical foul [10-12-2]
(d) Flagrant Personal foul/Fighting [10-16-3]

There may be more, but this is all I'm going to look for this late at night.
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