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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 11:00am
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Intentional foul on throw in

In the case of any type of throw-in, when is a foul intentional? Meaning a foul that would normally be common but by rule must be intentional?

I don't have my books with me and was asked this question about throw-ins and thought I remembered the foul must be intentional bus wasn't sure.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 11:07am
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In the case of any type of throw-in, when is a foul intentional? Meaning a foul that would normally be common but by rule must be intentional?

I don't have my books with me and was asked this question about throw-ins and thought I remembered the foul must be intentional bus wasn't sure.
The same rules / guidelines apply. If it's a "basketball play" it's lilley not intentional; if it's not a basketball play, it likely is.
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If they reach across the boundary plane and foul the thrower before the ball is released, it's intentional by rule.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 11:34am
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If the defender reaches through the plane and contacts the thrower, it's an intentional foul, no warning needed
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 12:40pm
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If the defender reaches through the plane and contacts the thrower, it's an intentional foul, no warning needed
Correct, but you call the intentional foul and issue the official warning.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 01:06pm
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Sent me to the rule book, so I'll post this:

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9-2-11 Penalty 4: If an opponent(s) of the thrower reaches through the throw-in boundary-line plane and fouls the thrower, an intentional personal foul shall be charged to the offender. No warning for delay required.
What first confused me is remembering that if the defender reaches across the plane and touches the ball while still in possession of the thrower it is a technical foul... unexpected that contacting the thrower would be an intentional foul while contacting the ball would be a technical:

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9-2-11 Penalty 3: If an opponent(s) of the thrower reaches through the throw-in boundary-line place and touches or dislodges the ball while in possession of the thrower or being passed to a teammate outside the boundary line (as in 7-5-7), a technical foul shall be charged to the offender. No warning for delay required. See 10-3-11 Penalry.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 09:27pm
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What first confused me is remembering that if the defender reaches across the plane and touches the ball while still in possession of the thrower it is a technical foul... unexpected that contacting the thrower would be an intentional foul while contacting the ball would be a technical:
Just remember that a foul for live-ball contact has to be a personal foul. As such, the foul should be an intentional foul.

Similarly, dislodging/touching the ball does not involve contact (with another player), so it can't be a personal foul. The technical foul is the only choice here.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2007, 02:20pm
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In the case of any type of throw-in, when is a foul intentional? Meaning a foul that would normally be common but by rule must be intentional?
10.3.11 SITUATION A: After a field goal, A1 has the ball out of bounds for a throw-in. Thrower A1 holds the ball: (a) B2 crosses the boundary line and fouls A1; or (b) B2 reaches through the out-of-bounds plane and touches the ball while in the hands of A1. RULING: It is an intentional personal foul in (a), and a technical foul in (b). In (a), such a contact foul with the thrower during a throw-in shall be considered intentional, or if it is violent, it should be ruled flagrant. COMMENT: Either act is a foul and it should be called whenever it occurs during a game without regard to time or score or whether the team had or had not been warned for a delay-of-game situation. If the player making the throw-in (A1) reaches through the out-of-bounds plane into the court and B1 then slaps the ball from the hand of A1, no violation has occurred. B1 has merely slapped a live ball from the
hands of A1. (4-19-3, 4; 9-2-11 Penalty 3, 4)


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Correct, but you call the intentional foul and issue the official warning.
Yep.
10.3.11 SITUATION C: Team A scores near the end of the fourth quarter and is trailing by one point. B1 has the ball and is moving along the end line to make the throw-in. A2 steps out of bounds and fouls B1. Is the foul personal or technical? RULING: This is an intentional personal foul. The time remaining to be played or whether Team A had been previously warned for a delay-of-game situation is not a factor. If the team had not been warned, the foul constitutes the warning. (4-19-1; 9-2-11 Penalty 4)

9.2.11 SITUATION: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1's hands. Team B has not been warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction. RULING: B1 is charged with a technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded and reported to the head coach. ...

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My thought on this question is at the end of a game when the team trailing is trying to foul, so they foul before the ball is inbounded, basketball play or not. Is it a common foul or intentional?
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