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Jimgolf Tue Mar 27, 2007 01:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
"Replays seemed to suggest Green traveled by picking up his pivot foot. None of the three officials saw it that way." :rolleyes:

When you hear things like this, it makes you wonder if they think a jump shot is a travel. How can you take a jump shot without lifting your pivot foot, LOL?

NothinButAFan Fri Apr 06, 2007 03:00pm

I'm not a ref so found this site a valuable resource when looking into this topic; I'm one of those who was sure that what Green did was a travel, as did most of the people in my pickup game who I discussed it with.

I have an additional question. Green was pivoting on his right foot, planted his left, spun around it and elevated and shot. Let's say he was trying to gain a little more distance and instead of pivoting and stepping on his left, he jumped to his left. So the move was similar, but his right foot left the ground before his left one landed. Is this a travel? The NBA rule book says "If he alights with both feet, he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor", by which I think it would be interpreted as a travel; I'm not sure if there's a similar college rule, or if it's implied one way or another. (This came up in a pickup game yesterday when someone made a similar move.)

IREFU2 Fri Apr 06, 2007 03:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
When you hear things like this, it makes you wonder if they think a jump shot is a travel. How can you take a jump shot without lifting your pivot foot, LOL?

The travel occurs when you lift your pivot and put it down before releasing the ball.

JRutledge Fri Apr 06, 2007 03:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothinButAFan
I have an additional question. Green was pivoting on his right foot, planted his left, spun around it and elevated and shot. Let's say he was trying to gain a little more distance and instead of pivoting and stepping on his left, he jumped to his left. So the move was similar, but his right foot left the ground before his left one landed. Is this a travel? The NBA rule book says "If he alights with both feet, he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor", by which I think it would be interpreted as a travel; I'm not sure if there's a similar college rule, or if it's implied one way or another. (This came up in a pickup game yesterday when someone made a similar move.)

First of all I have no idea (as most of us here do not know as well) what the NBA Rulebook says. Maybe someone can give you the NBA definition but I know I cannot at this time. I do not work any NBA games or games with NBA rules. I would only be guessing.

This play happen in a NCAA game which also shares the same rules of traveling as National Federation (High School to you) Rules do. It is always legal to lift a pivot foot to pass and shoot. This is what took place so it was not called. If a player puts back his pivot foot to the floor before he shoots or passes (after lifting it) then it would be a travel. Now since you are a fan I will not get into all the traveling as it relates to dribbling because that was not your question.

Peace

Adam Fri Apr 06, 2007 03:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothinButAFan
I have an additional question. Green was pivoting on his right foot, planted his left, spun around it and elevated and shot. Let's say he was trying to gain a little more distance and instead of pivoting and stepping on his left, he jumped to his left. So the move was similar, but his right foot left the ground before his left one landed. Is this a travel? The NBA rule book says "If he alights with both feet, he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor", by which I think it would be interpreted as a travel; I'm not sure if there's a similar college rule, or if it's implied one way or another. (This came up in a pickup game yesterday when someone made a similar move.)

Hmmm. As I read this, I'm picturing a layup.

"If he alights with both feet" most likely would refer to jumping off of both feet at the same time.


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