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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 09:10am
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Thanks for doing some grunt work for all officials. If your emails result in a clarification of 9-9-3, that will be a good thing for everyone.
I think that you should send a follow up email that includes the explanations of these plays that BktBallRef and I wrote in that other thread I referred to you. It seems that Mary didn't grasp some of the problems with the wording of the current rule. Her answer to #4 is indicative of that. She seemed to fail to notice that the player is jumping from his backcourt to his frontcourt, not the other way around, in that play and thus clearly is not covered by the wording of 9-9-3.

Also there seems to be a typo in the paragraph that begins with EXPLANATION.
"...a defensive player would then commit a violation if he caught the tipped ball while airborne after jumping from the backcourt, securing the ball in midair and landing in the backcourt."

Shouldn't that be frontcourt?
Yes there is a typo as you stated, hopefully that was interpretted and understood to be wrong.

IMO, what she was saying about #3 and #4 is that anytime a ball is secured while in the air, the "normal landing" provision takes precedence and they are allowed to land in that way....

She mentioned talking with the committee and adding them to the casebook plays for next season. You can bet when I get mine that I will be opening it directly to 9.9.3 and checking.

I'll look into sending the explanations the two of you had in your thread.....let you know if I hear anything from that.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 09:57am
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RushmoreRef, thanks for submitting my 4 questions to your state association and to Mary Struckoff at the NFHS.
I am still having a problem with her rules interpolation to Question 4.

(4) Throw-in for Team A near the division line in their front court
(Team B's backcourt). A1's throw-in is deflected by B1 who is applying
direct pressure on A1. B2 jumps from their backcourt court, catches the
ball in the air and lands first foot in the frontcourt, second foot in
the backcourt.

In this case play, the player jumps from the backcourt, secures control in the air, lands FC then BC. 9-9-3 states that for the exception, the player has to jump from the FC.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 11:13am
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RushmoreRef, thanks for submitting my 4 questions to your state association and to Mary Struckoff at the NFHS.
I am still having a problem with her rules interpolation to Question 4.

(4) Throw-in for Team A near the division line in their front court
(Team B's backcourt). A1's throw-in is deflected by B1 who is applying
direct pressure on A1. B2 jumps from their backcourt court, catches the
ball in the air and lands first foot in the frontcourt, second foot in
the backcourt.

In this case play, the player jumps from the backcourt, secures control in the air, lands FC then BC. 9-9-3 states that for the exception, the player has to jump from the FC.

I see what you mean.....hopefully a clafication will come with that....I'm thinking that she is stating that any time there is no team control, a normal landing is permitted and don't know if she didn't see that the jump came from the BC or if she is saying it doesn't matter.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 03:27pm
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Answer: No violation, play on. The provision in 9-9-3 permits the play. Team control is established when A2 gains possession and lands in the backcourt.
This statement alone should disqualify her from giving "definitive" rulings.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 05:55pm
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This statement alone should disqualify her from giving "definitive" rulings.
It ain't the first one that she's screwed up. She needs to stick to editing.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 06:04pm
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It ain't the first one that she's screwed up. She needs to stick to editing.
I'm lost....anyway..think she made it clear that there is some room for interpretation with this rule and that they would look at it in committee, which is what all of us would like to have happen.

What I deduced from the email is this...a tip doesn't end the provisions of 9.9.3....what we still need to know is does this apply to a defender that jumps from the backcourt to frontcourt (doesn't say that in the rule) and is the parenthesis situations all inclusive or just examples.

Am I correct in this or are there other questions?...I'd like to know before I send my final email back to the association and eventually they will send it to her.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 06:06pm
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Those are pretty much the three points that need addressing due to the current wording of the rule.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 06:55pm
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what we still need to know is does this apply to a defender that jumps from the backcourt to frontcourt (doesn't say that in the rule)
???

A defender jumping from the BC to the FC is always legal.
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