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Mark Dexter Wed Nov 28, 2001 10:27pm

Well, the men's season has started, so the real rule experts decided to show up in the gym tonight. And no, I'm not referring to the crew which worked last year's NCAA championship game.

Best "critique" of the game - home team fouls V1 while V1 is in his shooting motion, before the bonus. V1 misses the shot, awarded 2 FT's. The ruling from the stands - it can't be a shooting foul because he "wasn't facing the basket!!"

What other rules don't we know? Find out next week on . . . Wisdom from the stands.

Dan_ref Wed Nov 28, 2001 11:32pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Well, the men's season has started, so the real rule experts decided to show up in the gym tonight. And no, I'm not referring to the crew which worked last year's NCAA championship game.

Best "critique" of the game - home team fouls V1 while V1 is in his shooting motion, before the bonus. V1 misses the shot, awarded 2 FT's. The ruling from the stands - it can't be a shooting foul because he "wasn't facing the basket!!"

What other rules don't we know? Find out next week on . . . Wisdom from the stands.

OK, so how does one engage in the usual shooting motion
while not facing the basket? (Innocent question!)

williebfree Thu Nov 29, 2001 12:10am

Great title
 
I am already anticipating the next "episode"!

RookieDude Thu Nov 29, 2001 12:37am

Shots not facing the basket:

*Reverse layup

*Hook shot from the free throw line

those are a couple...

Dude

JeffRef Thu Nov 29, 2001 08:39am

Had to laugh at this one...
 
We're five minutes into the game without calling a foul. Our first foul is against the home team and someone cries out "Aw c'mon ref call it both ways!"

Danvrapp Thu Nov 29, 2001 09:05am

Re: Had to laugh at this one...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JeffRef
We're five minutes into the game without calling a foul. Our first foul is against the home team and someone cries out "Aw c'mon ref call it both ways!"
<b>Obviously</b> wanted a double personal foul. ;)

Mark Dexter Thu Nov 29, 2001 10:45am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
OK, so how does one engage in the usual shooting motion
while not facing the basket? (Innocent question!)

In this case, he was backing in toward the goal, picked up the ball (I know - you don't need that for a shot, either) and was about to pivot and release.

With the call it both ways, I had an IM game Monday night. A1 barely taps B1 as B1 is going up for a shot - no call by me. B: "Come on, you gotta call that!!"

Next possession - B2 fouls A2 hard on the shot - obvious foul. B: "Come on, you gotta let 'em play!"

Mark Padgett Thu Nov 29, 2001 01:56pm

Re: Had to laugh at this one...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JeffRef
We're five minutes into the game without calling a foul. Our first foul is against the home team and someone cries out "Aw c'mon ref call it both ways!"
I've had this happen to me, too. BTW - "Wisdom from the stands" is an oxymoron.

Also BTW - I've heard the word "oxymoron" defined as a coach who breathes.

CanadaRef Thu Nov 29, 2001 04:22pm

OK. One of the best calls from the stands I've heard:

While reffing an intense Varsity boys game, my follicley challenged partner hears "C'mon ref, get the hair out of your eyes!"

paulis Thu Nov 29, 2001 04:37pm

One of my favorite referee's lines: on a close block/charge call when the disappointed coach questions the call the official said "Hey coach, you should be grateful that I only have two choices on that call. At least this way I am only wrong half the time!"

Mike Burns Thu Nov 29, 2001 07:31pm

Late in the second quarter with a 3/4 full gym. I call a foul and the crowd is suddenly quiet as I report the foul. Then clear as a bell a fan yells "Common you gotta call it both ways!". I glance at the score board, 9 and 9. When I look back at my partner we laughed so hard he couldn't administer the throw.

Mike

JRutledge Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:02am

In my college JV game tonite....
 
we had the visiting team with 7 fouls and the home team with 1. For the record the visiting team was winning by 10 or more most of the game, they were more physical and more talented.

After not calling a foul on either team for about a 10 minutes stretch and we did not call several blocks in favor fouls on the home team end (bad offensive decisions to take on the big girl), we have a winner in the stands say from the visiting team side apparantly, "Doesn't the (home team) foul. You guys are homers."

BTW, the home team lost by 10 and controlled the entire game. And we did not even get in the bonus by for one foul. Fouls at the end of the second half was 7 to 7. But we are hommers. Funny stuff.

Peace

bigwhistle Fri Nov 30, 2001 10:00am

Re: In my college JV game tonite....
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge

After not calling a foul on either team for about a 10 minutes stretch and we did not call several blocks in favor fouls on the home team end (bad offensive decisions to take on the big girl.

Wow...

Rut has finally gone over to the wimmen\'s game too.

j/k

JRutledge Fri Nov 30, 2001 03:42pm

Re: Re: In my college JV game tonite....
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigwhistle
Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge

After not calling a foul on either team for about a 10 minutes stretch and we did not call several blocks in favor fouls on the home team end (bad offensive decisions to take on the big girl.

Wow...

Rut has finally gone over to the wimmen\'s game too.

j/k
Do not get it twisted. This is for an assignor that assigns both Men and Women\'s college and HS basketball. He is the only one that I do this for. He helped me out big time, so I do not mind helping him out with games he needs for substitutions.

Peace

Dan_ref Sat Dec 01, 2001 10:24pm

Quote:

Originally posted by RookieDude
Shots not facing the basket:

*Reverse layup

*Hook shot from the free throw line

those are a couple...

Dude

Well, yeah, OK, but unless you\'re playing H-O-R-S-E then
you\'re looking at the basket on these, meaning you are
"facing" the basket.


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