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rainmaker Tue Dec 18, 2001 04:24am

Near the end of first half. Team B ahead by 25. As the clock winds down, bad pass by B1 sails out of bounds. Whistle, everyone looks at clock -- .02 seconds left. My partner is under B's basket at the baseline getting ready to hadn off to A1 for the inbound. Coach B is right by me saying, "What's he doing? He can't in bound the ball -- there's nothing legal that can happen.." and so on. I stared first, and then said, "Coach, let's just get it over with here" He says, "This isn't legal!!" and he's kind of going on and on. He was close to a technical over 2 tenths of a second's worth of a play that had no physical possibility of hurting him in any way.

And in his spare time, he's a ref, too...

Doggone it, it's so hard to write stuff like this now that I know the commissioner of our association is reading this board -- Howard, I'm not tattling, just roamin' with my homies, here in the reffin' hood...

Mark Dexter Tue Dec 18, 2001 09:15am

Mark, did you point at his shoes and puke on his pants? I mean, strike that; reverse it.

Juulie, situations like this are when it is best to remind the timer that there is a wonderful little concept called lag time. I remember a JV blowout (home team losing) where one official called a shooting foul against V on the last posession. I actually stopped the clock with :01, although it was probably down to :00.5, and we shot the free throws. By far, the most embarassing moment of my timing career.

Kelly Thu Dec 20, 2001 01:46pm

wisdom from the stands
 
Last year in a girls' varsity game team A had the ball, team B pressing, and team A was having a hard time getting the ball up the court. A fan in the stands was yelling for a 10 second backcourt violation. By the third trip down the court he was literally jumping up & down on the bleachers yelling "10 seconds, 10 seconds". I saw another fan say something to him (I can only guess what). Not a peep after that. Hey, it was early in the season - maybe he'd only seen boys' games so far. - Kelly

williebfree Thu Dec 20, 2001 02:02pm

Re: wisdom from the stands
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly
Last year in a girls' varsity game team A had the ball, team B pressing, and team A was having a hard time getting the ball up the court. A fan in the stands was yelling for a 10 second backcourt violation. By the third trip down the court he was literally jumping up & down on the bleachers yelling "10 seconds, 10 seconds". I saw another fan say something to him (I can only guess what). Not a peep after that. Hey, it was early in the season - maybe he'd only seen boys' games so far. - Kelly
Maybe the "Wise" fan told the "uninformed" fan that the 10-second rule was not in effect until all team members had entered the game???? :D

Richard Ogg Fri Dec 21, 2001 03:01pm

Probably the <b>wise</b> fan explained to the <b>uninformed</b> fan that it was the home team that was not getting up the court and if the ref's were too dumb to remember the 10-second rule, then they didn't want to remind you. (I doubt a fan knew that the 10-second rule didn't apply to girls. Thats giving a lot of credit....)

Sven Fri Dec 21, 2001 05:58pm

Re: wisdom from the stands
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly
Last year in a girls' varsity game team A had the ball, team B pressing, and team A was having a hard time getting the ball up the court. A fan in the stands was yelling for a 10 second backcourt violation....maybe he'd only seen boys' games so far. - Kelly

Quote:

Originally posted by Richard Ogg
(I doubt a fan knew that the 10-second rule didn't apply to girls. Thats giving a lot of credit....)


I think I understand... :confused:...however, the 10 second backcourt rule for high school ball applies to both sexes in some states. Well, at least the one I live in.

Sven

daves Fri Dec 21, 2001 08:12pm

"How could that be three seconds in the key? We didn't start our play yet!"

Larks Mon Dec 24, 2001 01:02am

Gotcha
 
Quote:

Originally posted by daves
"How could that be three seconds in the key? We didn't start our play yet!"
I worked an 7th/8th game today where the coach pulled a funny on the other ref Dan. Dan called a kick....the coach asks Dan..."New Shot Clock?"

Dan feezes...seriously thinks about it and then the obvious dawns on him. I just bust out laughing.

But my fav from the night was A's Coach during a time out...."How can we have 7 more fouls called on us than them?" I says "coach, we're just looking advantage gained and have no idea on the foul count" but I thinks "WELL IF YOUR TEAM WOULD QUIT FRICKING FOULING" we wouldnt blow the whistle!!!"

After a couple secs of silence, he pukes on my shoes! Dammit, I just cleaned Jurrasics puke off and now this mess.

Larks - Rookie Shoe Cleaning specialist






Kelly Fri Dec 28, 2001 07:06pm

wisdom from the stands
 
Sven: I only work in New York, so no 10 second backcourt count. Maybe the fan was from PA/MA/OH/elsewhere? Giving too much credit again. - Kelly

devdog69 Fri Dec 28, 2001 07:45pm

Re: wisdom from the stands
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly
Sven: I only work in New York, so no 10 second backcourt count. Maybe the fan was from PA/MA/OH/elsewhere? Giving too much credit again. - Kelly
Kelly, do you have a shot clock in NY? Is the "no 10 second count" only for girls? You confused me a little, I assumed (I know *** "u & me") that you were talking NCAA women.

ChuckElias Sat Dec 29, 2001 03:12pm

Re: Gotcha
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Larks
Quote:

I worked an 7th/8th game today where the coach pulled a funny on the other ref Dan. Dan called a kick....the coach asks Dan..."New Shot Clock?"

Dan feezes...seriously thinks about it and then the obvious dawns on him. I just bust out laughing.
I hope that the "obvious" was "yes". It's hard to tell from your post why the coach's question was funny. Maybe I've just had too much time off from officiating this week.

Chuck

rainmaker Sun Dec 30, 2001 02:22am

Sat in the stands tonight with a colleague to watch 4 (!!) games in a row of a Holiday Tournament. Heard them all, "Over the back" "She's reaching, ref" "All ball!!" "She can't touch it, ref! (after a rebound of her own air-ball shot)".

After some time passed in the second game, I said, "We've heard them all except three seconds" Of course, the next thing we heard was, "How long is she allowed in the key, ref?" We both laughed a lot.

[Edited by rainmaker on Dec 30th, 2001 at 01:24 AM]

Larks Sun Dec 30, 2001 11:32am

Re: Re: Gotcha
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
Quote:

I worked an 7th/8th game today where the coach pulled a funny on the other ref Dan. Dan called a kick....the coach asks Dan..."New Shot Clock?"

Dan feezes...seriously thinks about it and then the obvious dawns on him. I just bust out laughing.
I hope that the "obvious" was "yes". It's hard to tell from your post why the coach's question was funny. Maybe I've just had too much time off from officiating this week.

Chuck
Uhh....no shot clock in 7th / 8th and my partner had never worked college...the funny part is that he was so caught off guard with the question, he froze. Ok, so you had to be there.

zebraman Sun Dec 30, 2001 02:11pm

Frosh girls game. A1 dribbling and she misses the ball so it bounces about head high and then she resumes dribbling on the next bounce. "That has to be palming ref, even I can see that!"

Varsity girls game. I'm trail on a free throw shot. Shot barely scrapes rim. On the next dead ball I'm in front of the coach.
<i>Coach:</i> "I can't believe you didn't see the airball on the free throw."
<i>Me:</i> "It got a little piece of rim coach."
<i>Coach:</i> "Hey, I'm 40 feet farther away than you and I could see that it didn't hit rim."
<i>Me:</i> Complete silence...quizzical look.

Z

williebfree Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:30pm

Over and Back Outrage
 
Girls' Varsity:

Team A advancing the ball in the BC. The dribbler moves to the non-tableside of the court away from me (and the opposing coach). At the division line, near the far sideline, the defense sets a double-team trap. The dribbler has both feet across the division line, BUT has not advanced the ball forward of it. The dribbler recognizes the situation and returns to the BC to avoid the "trap".

The opposing coach gets loud, "That's over and back Ref! How can you miss it!"

My quick retort, "Coach, I'll call it when it happens!"

He gave me a perplexed look. As if he thought "I" was in another game.


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