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MadCityRef Sat Mar 17, 2007 04:31pm

In the BTL-MD halftime conversation, Seth Davis excused the lack of an intentional foul call "because it wasn't severe enough to warrant ejection." I expect Packer to not have a clue, but has anyone on-air ever read the rules?

MJT Sat Mar 17, 2007 04:41pm

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Originally Posted by finnref
talk about not calling an intentional. Check the Butler-Maryland game.Last few seconds Butler player gets rebound and moves toward mid court and gets his shirt grabbed and nearly ripped off his back. No call.

There was to a call. The call was made on the reach, and then the shirt grab came. It was the correct call, cuz he called it on the reach. If he did not call the reach and the only shirt grab, then you'd have an intentional foul.

WhistlesAndStripes Sat Mar 17, 2007 04:43pm

On that play, the defender actually raked him across the arms before grabbing the jersey. Thus, the non-intentional foul on that one.

jontheref Sat Mar 17, 2007 04:50pm

Is it me or are we seeing all officials in the tournament more intent on calling the foul in the paint before an entry pass...lots of fouls involving the swim move....but once that entry pass is made and the ball goes up...then they let them rebound.

jontheref Sat Mar 17, 2007 04:52pm

And one more thing....in answer to MadCIty.....no no broadcaster has ever read a rulebook....save for Bilas....and for that matter...Majerski, the former coach isnt bad with the rules for a former coach.

WhistlesAndStripes Sat Mar 17, 2007 05:24pm

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Originally Posted by jontheref
And one more thing....in answer to MadCIty.....no no broadcaster has ever read a rulebook....save for Bilas....and for that matter...Majerski, the former coach isnt bad with the rules for a former coach.

Majerski? Or Majerus?

BktBallRef Sat Mar 17, 2007 05:47pm

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Originally Posted by MJT
There was to a call. The call was made on the reach, and then the shirt grab came. It was the correct call, cuz he called it on the reach. If he did not call the reach and the only shirt grab, then you'd have an intentional foul.

MJT, calling a foul a "reach" is the equivalent to calling "offsides" in NFHS football. It's just not done by knowledgable officials. ;)

MJT Sat Mar 17, 2007 07:34pm

Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. :D I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology." ;)

26 Year Gap Sat Mar 17, 2007 07:52pm

I have noticed a lot of what I would call 'extreme boxing out' on FTs. The inside guy actually turns and pushes with both arms. I have seen it with several teams in the past couple of days.

johnnyrao Sat Mar 17, 2007 08:23pm

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Originally Posted by jontheref
But I dont have a problem with the simple foul. Still if the guy sinks two free throws, the three pointer doesnt mean annthing.

While it is true that he missed the free throw, as well as Xavier losing a 9 point lead with three minutes to go, I don't think this excuses what appeared to be a fairly obvious intentional foul.

BktBallRef Sat Mar 17, 2007 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by MJT
Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. :D I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology." ;)

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Originally Posted by MJT
Neither is "raking across the arm" but we all know what is meant by it. :D I'd say I am a knowledgable official who used "common terminology" instead of "official terminology." ;)

That's great when you're on a coaching forum but this ain't a coaching forum. It is NOT a foul to reach.

I'd say you're basketball coach who should give basketball rules the same respect that you give football rules when you post as a football official. There's ZERO difference.

MJT Sat Mar 17, 2007 08:33pm

I suppose. I'll do it just for you BktBallRef. ;)

BktBallRef Sat Mar 17, 2007 08:34pm

NEWS FLASH - There's no such thing as over the back either. :)

MJT Sat Mar 17, 2007 08:35pm

Gosh, what can I say anymore. All my good stuff isn't real. :eek:

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Mar 17, 2007 08:40pm

Oden's foul was an intentional foul no matter at what level the game was and no matter at what time of the game it happened. I am really disappointed that an intentional foul was not called and I am a Buckeye fan.

MTD, Sr.


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