Whatintheheck are you talking about-"unconditional support"?:confused:

Every official misses a call every now and then. Every official has a bad game every now and then too. But when someone says that <b>EVERY</b> single D1 Mens official in the tournament is terrible, and <b>EVERY</b> single official also lack guts to boot, then they're damnwell going way too far imo. That might be the most asinine statement that I have read on this forum, this side of Old School. This clown has got a history of crapping on D1 officials too, going back to last year's tournament.

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...969#post297969

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...396#post299396

It doesn't bother me when someone craps all over an official because they obviously don't like them. Case in point- you and Steve Welmer. But when you crap on <b>ALL</b> D1 officials in the tournament, then that's just plain stoopid imo. I certainly wouldn't want someone like him as a partner, fer sure. I'd be afraid to turn my back on him.

Note the "imo"--"in my opinion".

Let's exhale............repeat after me, "WooooooSaaaaaa." :D :D :D

Now I know how you feel.

Oh, for the record Welmer isn't my least favorite D1 official. My opinion of him has to do with what I consider not making anything but the most ultra-obvious calls. I don't think I have ever said anything about him getting those calls wrong. There is an official who goes farther than him in the tournament every year that makes some horrible calls. I guess I see what you are saying since I have rarely even mentioned this official's name.

It ain't about <b>individual</b> officials, Tom. It's about someone who is supposedly an official saying there aren't <b>ANY</b> D1 Mens officials out there with the balls to make the tough call. <b>NONE!</b>

Now, you being a Teddy V. groupie(:D ), how does that statement strike you? Do you agree that ol' Teddy doesn't have the nuts to make a tough call? That's patently ridiculous, isn't it? Note---you can insert <b>any</b> D1 official's name above in place of Teddy V. That's because according to socalreff, <b>ALL</b> D1 Mens officials working in the tournament lack courage. Well, that's just wrong coming from someone who purports to be an official.

It WAS an intentional foul. The officials didn't call it. It happens a LOT in basketball. It's easy to blame the loss of a game on officiating (yes the officiating sucked and it went in Xavier's favor for the majority of the game)

Oden rarely gets a call go in his favor...such as this one at the end of the game:

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2206/picture2gh0.jpg

Should that have been a foul?

This "fangirl" saw the game, winced as Oden pushed whatshisface out of bounds and waited for the intentional call. It didn't come which was a shock to me since they were calling everything else all day.

But did he make both free throws? No. Would the game been out of reach if he had? Yes.

Did Xavier blow a 9 point lead in 3 or so minutes? Yes.

Did Xavier fail to show up in overtime? Yup.

If the situations were reversed, you can bet OSU fans would be up in arms, complaining just as Xavier fans are, but the end result remains...the only thing that "non-call" gives Xavier fans is another reason to hate Thad Matta when it wasn't the officiating who lost that game for Xavier...it was Xavier.

Talk about being misquoted... I never said none of those officials had courage, because I know some of them personally. All I said was that I hadn't seen it. It's not like I'm watching every play of every game. I apologize for the misconception.I should have specified that based on some of the calls and no-calls I've seen, it seems the officials didn't make some tough calls that could have been made, ie: the Oden play, the Cain play. Most of my post had to do with officials calling all over the place. It just makes one wonder if plays are getting officiated within their own primaries if they're offficiating someone else's. If you watch Burr's 1st round game, 50% of his calls were in front of a partner.

While Oden watched from the bench, it should be noted.

Were there other factors contributing to Xavier's loss? Of course. But that seemed to be a blatant intentional foul--to stop the clock and force Xavier to shoot--and it wasn't called. Ohio State gained a huge advantage with that call not being made. Now the clock is stopped, and Xavier will not get the ball back as well. Did the one call (or lack of) "cost" Xavier the game? Not in the general sense of mistakes made during the game. But, failure to get that call right gave Ohio State every advantage it was seeking. 2 shots AND the ball is a big difference then just 2 shots.

I also believe that if that fould had happened at a different point in the game it would have been intentional for sure. But since everyone "knew" OSU had to foul, they passed on it.

You've got to be quick. The NCAA had the video removed.:(

sigh...

I give up.

CBS has their version up. The foul occurs at the :50 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdK4qdJXGbU

Got it, thanks.

As for the "afraid to turn my back on him" statement: You wouldn\'t have any fear ever of me saying anything about you to someone else that I wouldn\'t
1st say to your face. You would always know what I think. I will never say, "Good job to your face" and then tell someone else how bad I think you are, or even worse tell an assignor. I know plenty who do that, which to me is much worse. If someone tells me that I stink and tells someone else too, I have no problem with that.