Who Gets the

[Just Curious]

Scenario: As A1 & A2 position to set a double screen, they lock arms to prevent B1 from maintaining a closely-guarded position on A3. B1 sees the screen and either makes contact or goes around the screen.

Remedy: Call a technical foul and charge it to Team A. Award 2 free throws to Team B. NF 10-1-11

Question: Who gets the "T"??? NF 10-1-11 Penalty

[crew]

could you just call an illegal screen(foul)? and if so try to assess the foul on the second screener. i.e. a2 gets in position to set screen then a3 comes over and locks up with a2. call illegal screen on a3.
just a thought.

[Brian Watson]

Just going off memory but isn't this a team T, indirect to the coach? I think the case sitch deals with this on an inbound play.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Just Curious

Remedy: Call a technical foul and charge it to Team A. Award 2 free throws to Team B. NF 10-1-11

Question: Who gets the "T"??? NF 10-1-11 Penalty

You just answered your own question. Section 1 of Rule 10 is titled "Team Technical". This is charged to the team, and is not charged indirectly to the coach.

Chuck

[BktBallRef]

Look at the topics of all the sections under rule 10. THe topic tells you who gets the technical.

Section 1 - Team
Section 2 - Substitute
Section 3 - Player
Section 4 - Bench
Section 5 - Coach

[Tim Roden]

Team technical. No individuals and No Coaches get a mark next to their name. Just the team has one more added toward the bonus. Shoot the T's. Ball at division line across from table..

[Lotto]

Under NCAA rules, this seems to be a simple personal foul.

Rule 10-20 (which is in the part of Rule 10 devoted to personal fouls)
Art. 7. Screeners shall not line up next to each other within 6 feet of a boundary line and parallel to it so that contact occurs.
a. Screeners shall be permitted to line up parallel to a boundary line and next to each other without locking arms or grasping each other, provided that the screen is set at least 6 feet from that boundary line.

Is that a correct interpretation by me?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Lotto
Under NCAA rules, this seems to be a simple personal foul.

Rule 10-20 (which is in the part of Rule 10 devoted to personal fouls)
Art. 7. Screeners shall not line up next to each other within 6 feet of a boundary line and parallel to it so that contact occurs.
a. Screeners shall be permitted to line up parallel to a boundary line and next to each other without locking arms or grasping each other, provided that the screen is set at least 6 feet from that boundary line.

Is that a correct interpretation by me?

If you are correct, who gets charged with the personal foul?

[Lotto]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

If you are correct, who gets charged with the personal foul?

Whoever is responsible for the contact. If there is contact with both team A players at approximately the same time, then we have a multiple foul (real, not false---see Rule 4-26.12) and B1 shoots 2 free throws regardless of whether B is in the bonus (see Rule 10-21.2.a.2) unless one of the fouls by A is judged intentional or flagrant.

Of course, I'm not at all sure that this is a personal foul.

[Mark Dexter]

A multiple foul? I think we'll see an NCAA official call a foul "over the back" before we see a multiple called!!

[Kelvin green]

Lotto check your rule quote you list it says when screeners do not lock arms. the original post states players locked arms... I havent checked NCAA rules but my guess is something like NF that since screeners arms locked is listed then it is worse that a personal foul

[Lotto]

Kelvin, the section of the rule book I quoted is from the part of Rule 10 devoted to personal fouls. The rules there are all of the form "A player shall not..." so I read the statement "Screeners shall be permitted to line up parallel to a boundary line and next to each other without locking arms..." as indicating that locking arms *is* a personal foul (just as all of the other prohibited behaviors listed there are personal fouls).

So far as I can tell, locking arms isn't mentioned anywhere else in the NCAA rules.

[Kelvin green]

Now I see where you are going with this makes more sens now, Thanks

[RookieDude]

Tim Roden wrote about Team Technicals,

On this subject, when a Coach gets a Technical Foul does this count toward the Bonus?

Also...situation: 4 players from Team A go on the court during a fight...
2 Players from Team B go on the court for the fight...
None participate in the fight...

How would this be administered?
Free Throws, Fouls, Ejections, and Number toward the Bonus.

Dude

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by RookieDude
Tim Roden wrote about Team Technicals,

On this subject, when a Coach gets a Technical Foul does this count toward the Bonus?

Also...situation: 4 players from Team A go on the court during a fight...
2 Players from Team B go on the court for the fight...
None participate in the fight...

How would this be administered?
Free Throws, Fouls, Ejections, and Number toward the Bonus.

Dude

(1) Yes. All fouls in NFHS count toward the team total (and, thus, bonus). In NCAA, all direct T's (including those on the coach) count toward the team total.

(2) NFHS -- The six players are ejected. Both Coach A and Coach B get one indirect T. One foul is added to each team total. B shoots two throws (since the number of players was unequal) and B gets the ball for a throw-in.

NCAA -- the six players are ejected. No Ts, no throws. Play resumes just as it would had the six not left the bench.