Logos on the floors

[Nevadaref]

How many people have observed players slip on the logo stickers that are placed over the center circle and sometimes on the endlines of the courts for tournaments?
Nevada lost their best perimeter defender to a hamstring injury sustained from this in the first game of the conference tournament. He did not play in their loss in the next game.
Nevada's coach and the WAC conference commissioner disagreed over the safety of these decals.

So what is the opinoin of people on here?
Are these a hazard or are they safe?
Should the NCAA people examine this more closely?

From the Reno Gazette Journal on March 9:

"The letdown only came when starting guard Kyle Shiloh suffered a hamstring injury in the final six minutes of the Wolf Pack's 88-56 win over Idaho in a quarterfinal game of the Western Athletic Conference tournament on Thursday afternoon.
Nevada advanced to a semifinal game against Utah State at 5 p.m. today and might have to play the game without Shiloh, a three-year starter, after he slipped on the WAC logo at mid-court.
"He's probably done for the week," said Nevada coach Mark Fox, who was critical of the large logos that are common in postseason Division I basketball. "We do have a deep team. We have a very deep team, but he's a terrific player.""

[Scrapper1]

I've never personally seen such an injury. But the logos are unnecessary to the game, so I wouldn't care if they went away.

[Indianaref]

Does the NCAA have different rules than NFHS as far as the division line? From the TV screen it appears that there is no requirement for a 1/4" shadow line for either the center restraining circle or the division line.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Does the NCAA have different rules than NFHS as far as the division line? From the TV screen it appears that there is no requirement for a 1/4" shadow line for either the center restraining circle or the division line.

Same rule, and they all (well, all the D-1 schools) have it.

[Scrapper1]

The rules may be worded a little differently, but they are essentially the same requirements. The center line may be a solid line, a broken line, or a "shadow-bordered" line (1-5-2). Any name, logo or abbreviation may be on the court "provided they do not obscure any of the required lines" (1-16-4).

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Does the NCAA have different rules than NFHS as far as the division line? From the TV screen it appears that there is no requirement for a 1/4" shadow line for either the center restraining circle or the division line.

The shadow lines are there, I'm sure, but are sometimes very difficult to see on TV.

[Red_Killian]

A little off point but.....if Shiloh is a starter and Nevada is such a deep team....why is he playing towards the end of a 30 point win? In a conference tourney where you are going to play on consecutive days? Hey coach, use some of that depth.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Does the NCAA have different rules than NFHS as far as the division line? From the TV screen it appears that there is no requirement for a 1/4" shadow line for either the center restraining circle or the division line.

NCAA requires a division line. As some have pointed out, it can be pretty difficult to see on TV. Per NCAA rules, a technical foul is actually assessed if the floor does not have a division line that complies with the rules.

A.R. 200. Team A and Team B are playing each other on Team D’s home court in a tournament hosted by Team D. Team C will play Team D immediately after A’s and B’s game. There is no continuous division line or center circle on the playing court.
RULING: Neither Team A nor Team B shall be assessed an indirect technical foul but, when Team D plays Team C, Team D, when the situation still exists, shall be assessed an indirect technical foul to begin the game since it is the home team. Only the home team shall be responsible for having a center circle and division line on its home playing court. Team C will shoot two free throws and the game shall start with a jump ball.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Red_Killian

A little off point but.....if Shiloh is a starter and Nevada is such a deep team....why is he playing towards the end of a 30 point win? In a conference tourney where you are going to play on consecutive days? Hey coach, use some of that depth.

My initial thought exactly. Kinda the same mentality that got Hansborough's nose broken.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

My initial thought exactly. Kinda the same mentality that got Hansborough's nose broken.

Not exactly.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Not exactly.

Apples & Oranges.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

NCAA requires a division line. As some have pointed out, it can be pretty difficult to see on TV. Per NCAA rules, a technical foul is actually assessed if the floor does not have a division line that complies with the rules.

A.R. 200. Team A and Team B are playing each other on Team D’s home court in a tournament hosted by Team D. Team C will play Team D immediately after A’s and B’s game. There is no continuous division line or center circle on the playing court.
RULING: Neither Team A nor Team B shall be assessed an indirect technical foul but, when Team D plays Team C, Team D, when the situation still exists, shall be assessed an indirect technical foul to begin the game since it is the home team. Only the home team shall be responsible for having a center circle and division line on its home playing court. Team C will shoot two free throws and the game shall start with a jump ball.

We have a Juco school that has no center line where the logo is, but in the 4 years I was at the rival Juco, they never got T'd up.

Would you officials actually call this on your own, or only if a rule-knowing coach brought it up?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Red_Killian

A little off point but.....if Shiloh is a starter and Nevada is such a deep team....why is he playing towards the end of a 30 point win? In a conference tourney where you are going to play on consecutive days? Hey coach, use some of that depth.

That's not really a legit criticism in this case. Fox was rotating the players throughout the entire game against the worst team in the conference. Shiloh just happened to get injured during his turn. All of the starters were probably going to come out at the five minute mark or the final media time-out with under four remaining.

From the same article:

"The Nevada bench contributed a season-high 42 points in Thursday's game. The bench's previous high had been 40 points in an 85-62 win over Alaska-Anchorage in the season opener Nov. 10.
"This is the first time they've played as a group for extended periods of time," Fox said. "Usually, they're surrounded with some experience. I was really pleased they were able to get some minutes and string them together."
The bench play made it possible for Fox to limit his starters' playing minutes.
Sessions and Kemp played 24 minutes apiece. Fazekas and Shiloh played 20 minutes each and Denis Ikovlev had 18 minutes."

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Apples & Oranges.

Logos and karate chops.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How many people have observed players slip on the logo stickers that are placed over the center circle and sometimes on the endlines of the courts for tournaments?

For those of you who saw the final seconds of the D2 championship game, just as Barton makes the steal, take a look at the only Winona defender who has a chance of making a play. What happens? He slips on the center court logo, trying to change directions to get back on D.

Uncontested layup for the win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WzmQmz9Kdc