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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:01pm
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Are you serious? Burr gave the Nova coach a well-deserved and basically run-of-the-mill "T". The incident was hardly worth mentioning. Saying he lost his "Super Cool " is a super ridiculous statement. He just took care of bidness.

You don't get out much, do you?
AWWWWW It's so good to see the old seasoned vets, who are in 30+ years of experience club, stick together.

By the way, I could care less about Jim Burr as an official who gets plays right, cause I think he gets just a few more right than Steve Welmer (who doesn't get many) but I respect the man for what and how has contributed to the game and for the many yrs. of service he has provided. I believe he is truly a legend in the officiating community and should be in the hall of fame when and if he ever retires.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:15pm
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AWWWWW It's so good to see the old seasoned vets, who are in 30+ years of experience club, stick together.

By the way, I could care less about Jim Burr as an official who gets plays right, cause I think he gets just a few more right than Steve Welmer (who doesn't get many) but I respect the man for what and how has contributed to the game and for the many yrs. of service he has provided. I believe he is truly a legend in the officiating community and should be in the hall of fame when and if he ever retires.

nice back handed compliment...
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:30pm
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nice back handed compliment...
I kinda stole the back-handed compliment from Jim Rome. He says to "always have a take" on things and so I do, and that is it. Jim has been an asset to the officiating community for many years, but I feel his, along with quiet a few others time are up, and now he just needs to retire, wait his couple of years to get on the hall of fame ballot and get in.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:40pm
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:46pm
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Jim has been an asset to the officiating community for many years, but I feel his, along with quiet a few others time are up, and now he just needs to retire, wait his couple of years to get on the hall of fame ballot and get in.
Yup, gotta make room for the new breed that don't know or understand the rules and also like to make up some of their own rules--like calling automatic blocks on secondary defenders who have LGP, or "T"s for slapping the backboard while trying to block a shot. Jmo, but I don't think that Burr, Welmer or any other D1 official currently breathing is gonna lose any sleep worrying about you replacing them at any time in the forseeable future.

Other than being an official that (supposedly) just finished his very first year of high school ball, do you have any other qualifications that would enable you to so accurately judge the competency or lack thereof of top-level D1 basketball officials?
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:57pm
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Yup, gotta make room for the new breed that don't know or understand the rules and also like to make up some of their own rules--like calling automatic blocks on secondary defenders who have LGP, or "T"s for slapping the backboard while trying to block a shot.
I agree, Jim is an awesome official and he looks like he's in great shape for his age. Far as you talking about officials making up their own rules. I've seen Jim do a few non-standard things too. When you see guys at the top of the profession doing whatever they want to do when it comes to mechanics. The message is not strong that the officials below should follow the rules to the letter either, imho.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 06:24pm
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Jim Burr's T was just the normal run of the mill T. If he is chewing anyone out he is chewing out the "C" in the Nova game who called a marginal offensive call directly in front of Burr. If its a big game and you get Burr in it I think that one should feel comfortable that the right call is going to be made. I don't get why he is so maligned.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 06:29pm
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Jim Burr's T was just the normal run of the mill T. If he is chewing anyone out he is chewing out the "C" in the Nova game who called a marginal offensive call directly in front of Burr. If its a big game and you get Burr in it I think that one should feel comfortable that the right call is going to be made. I don't get why he is so maligned.
He's maligned because he's on TV all the time, so he has a high percentage of visibility for all of us peons to critique. More media games and plays equals more you get wrong publically.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2007, 12:47am
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Yup, gotta make room for the new breed that don't know or understand the rules and also like to make up some of their own rules--like calling automatic blocks on secondary defenders who have LGP, or "T"s for slapping the backboard while trying to block a shot. Jmo, but I don't think that Burr, Welmer or any other D1 official currently breathing is gonna lose any sleep worrying about you replacing them at any time in the forseeable future.

Other than being an official that (supposedly) just finished his very first year of high school ball, do you have any other qualifications that would enable you to so accurately judge the competency or lack thereof of top-level D1 basketball officials?
I wouldn't worry about me coming to steal one of there spots anytime soon either. I don't even know if I will ever even get to work a Div. I game ever.

And as far as Welmer being at the top, I don't know if Gerald Bodreaux hired him this year, but I heard John Guthrie fired him when he was the Supervisor of officials cause he didn't think he could get a play right (don't know if that is entirely true, but I can see it being logical)
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I wouldn't worry about me coming to steal one of there spots anytime soon either. I don't even know if I will ever even get to work a Div. I game ever.

And as far as Welmer being at the top, I don't know if Gerald Bodreaux hired him this year, but I heard John Guthrie fired him when he was the Supervisor of officials cause he didn't think he could get a play right (don't know if that is entirely true, but I can see it being logical)
Oh, let's hold the SEC assignor up as a great indicator of how good an official Welmer is.

Then let's all laugh out loud.
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Oh, let's hold the SEC assignor up as a great indicator of how good an official Welmer is.

Then let's all laugh out loud.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 08:42pm
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I kinda stole the back-handed compliment from Jim Rome. He says to "always have a take" on things and so I do, and that is it.
What an incredible idiot to look up to. You're mother must be so proud.

You've got a helluva lot to learn.
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I kinda stole the back-handed compliment from Jim Rome. He says to "always have a take" on things and so I do, and that is it.
I suppose if you get paid by the word it makes sense to "always have a take" on things.

Of course, it also makes makes to speak as if there's more than half a brain behind the sh1t that comes out of your mouth.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2007, 05:59pm
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AWWWWW It's so good to see the old seasoned vets, who are in 30+ years of experience club, stick together.

By the way, I could care less about Jim Burr as an official who gets plays right, cause I think he gets just a few more right than Steve Welmer (who doesn't get many) but I respect the man for what and how has contributed to the game and for the many yrs. of service he has provided. I believe he is truly a legend in the officiating community and should be in the hall of fame when and if he ever retires.
Nice dig at Welmer.

If he wasn't at the top of his game, he wouldn't get hired anymore.
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