Would you have T ed ?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yabut, do you know how to cure IT?

How about an account amputation, then a cute band-aid?

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yabut, do you know how to cure IT?

You got IT the old fashioned way, and we are gonna cure IT the old fashioned way......

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by cmathews

You got IT the old fashioned way, and we are gonna cure IT the old fashioned way......

Amputation?

Banishment from the kingdom?

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Amputation?

Banishment from the kingdom?

as I recall from the movie, amputation may have been kinder...it was a searing hot metal rod, inserted into a very uncomfortable place....usually found only on the male of the species....

[ChrisSportsFan]

I'd say this is "T" worthy at pretty much every level and especially in a 9-10 year old game.

Just curious, why is OS the only person standing on his side of the fence in most senerios and yet he says everyone else needs to "get out more"? I'd also like to know where he goes when he get's out so I don't bump into him.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If a coach is that stupid, his career ought to be cut short; and one T in one game isn't going to help or hurt him.

Depending on where the coach is within his career. If he's had several losing seasons and gets a T that could possibly cost his team a trip to the playoff's. Could be devastating. Once you get out of the lower level ball mindset, these type of things could become an issue. If, as an official, you have one way you like to approach these types of situation, it becomes the same medicine, the same cure, the same response for whatever level you work.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Even if you had T'd the coach, and I would have, you would not be taking the game away from the kids. He had already done that with his comments that drew a T. Giving the T might educate the coach and kids about respect for officials. All about me, you guys are sickening.

The score should never dictate whether or not an official makes a call. Nobody ever said this. I am a firm believer that you should not call the game according to the score, however, in actual practice it does happen. In the case here, where you got a one point game, I think it was a good decision to let the comment slide.

If there is a foul or violation that has been called consistently throughout the game - it should be called every time it occurs. The problem is, this was not a violation but a TF. Since no T's had been called to this point. How does that effect your analogy now? If the coach has been a saint up to this point in the game. I would ignore the comment and chalk it up to emotion. Remember the old saying, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me, unless you are a basketball official

I HATE it when I hear someone say something like; "it's a tight one - don't call anything unless there's blood. Let the kids decide it" As far as I'm concerned - the kids do decide it but the deciding factor could have been a player doing something illegal that required an official to make a call.

Welcome to officiating. You hate to have a game come down to an officials call, but sometimes it happens.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan

I'd also like to know where he goes when he get's out so I don't bump into him.

Good point, you might catch it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by cmathews

it was a searing hot metal rod, inserted into a very uncomfortable place....usually found only on the male of the species....

Well, that should be a technical foul.....

Makes as much sense as some of the other stuff being posted in this thread.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

Depending on where the coach is within his career. If he's had several losing seasons and gets a T that could possibly cost his team a trip to the playoff's. Could be devastating. Once you get out of the lower level ball mindset, these type of things could become an issue. If, as an official, you have one way you like to approach these types of situation, it becomes the same medicine, the same cure, the same response for whatever level you work.

My point is that if this coach is teetering on getting fired, and my T would send his employer over the edge to fire him; not calling that T would only postpone the inevitable anyway. That's a big "if," though. Besides, his career progression isn't my concern. It's the game, and it's bigger than any coach or official.
I don't call this T to make him like me or respect me or because of how it makes me feel. I call the T because coaches and players need to know they can't get away with calling a ref a cheater. How it makes me feel is irrelevant.

Oh, by the way, your strawman is burning.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by j51969

You have to be one of the biggest AZZ CLOWNS in the world. I generally don't go around wearing my patriotism on my sleeve. However, as a veteran of Panama, and Desert Storm your analogy is completely ridiculous. NOTHING in sports compares to battle. If you have been in one you would know that. I actually enjoy your idiotic rants on here, it keeps me loose. Since most of your posts are a page long take some more time and write something less disrespectful to those of us who have served. If you have served yourself, your and even bigger idiot.

No disrespect intended, but my analogy is just that, an analogy, not a statement of fact. People draw analogies all the time, some maybe closer than others, but if you can't distinguish the difference, then maybe you are the idiot. Quite trying to change the subject. Now repeat after me, it's not all about me.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Old School

Welcome to officiating. You hate to have a game come down to an officials call, but sometimes it happens.

Wizards down by two with .1 seconds to go in the game. Arenas gets the foul call and Nellie (coach) gets the T.....Arenas hits all three FT's and Wizards win by 1! Game over.....

[dave30]

I would have given the T because it's 9 and 10 year olds. I can also see that the way you handled it worked out OK. It depends on the official. Joe Crawford gives more T's than just about anybody. Players and coaches learn it and play accordingly. Some referees let more go before whacking somebody. Neither way is wrong in my opinion.

[BillyMac]

Something about the original post brought back a memory to me. It just took me a few days to figure it out.

Girls varsity prep school tournament game. Visiting coach had been complaining about calls most of the first half. Nothing worth a technical foul, but just a constant "nag". Just before halftime a visiting player is fouled, and as she falls to the floor, is injured, enough to bekon the coach onto the court. He comes onto the court with his trainer. The trainer tends to the injured player. The coach "tends to us" and takes this opportunity to complain to both of us that we're not calling enough fouls, we're doing a terrible job, etc. We move away from him, and he proceeds to follow us, so we move farther away. This behavior would have and should have deserved a technical foul under any other circumstance, but my partner and I discussed it a decided that we did not want to make a big deal and call a technical foul while the the player was still in pain on the floor, making every one believe that we were more concerned about the coach than the player's painful injury, but that we would give the coach no more latitude and would call a technical foul the next time he complained. Wouldn't you have it, the coach never said "boo" the entire second half.

We missed our chance. I learned from that expereience. It will never happen again.

[j51969]

Originally Posted by Old School

No disrespect intended, but my analogy is just that, an analogy, not a statement of fact. People draw analogies all the time, some maybe closer than others, but if you can't distinguish the difference, then maybe you are the idiot. Quite trying to change the subject. Now repeat after me, it's not all about me.

The analogy was yours. THINK before you type. Try something different for a change, and then you can go back to the dolt you normally are.