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Old School Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:14am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Coaches at upper levels know better and can control their emotions. It's true, it's true. I've seen it.

You just prove my point. You need to get out more. Did you forget about Bobby Knight?

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I know you don't get this, but calling a T isn't an emotional experience.
If you would have blasted a T at the precise moment the coach made that comment to you, like the OP almost did but caught himself. That would have been an emotional T. You reacted to his comment the exact same way he reacted to the play. Both actions, not well thought out, imho.

A wise man once said; two wrongs don't make a right, and you can't fight fire with fire unless you won't to burn everything down.

Adam Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:24am

I'll bet even Bobby Knight knows better than to accuse his refs of cheating. If not, well, he has been known to get a few Ts.

No, I probably would have thought about it for a second, 'cause I don't get that comment often and it would have taken a moment to register. Just because you might get emotional on your technical fouls in the local rec league doesn't mean that's how real refs do it.

That said, even if it did register immediately and I T'd him right away, it's no more emotional than calling a travel as soon as you see it.

Again, you might want to get a new wise man. This wise guy is just giving you cliches.

Old School Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:37am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
He didn't call it because he didn't want to "decide the game."

This sounds like a guy that gets it. You know, that thing they call "IT". This guy gets it, unfortunately, you don't.

A wise man once said; if you got it, you don't need it; if you need it and you don't have it, then you really have no idea, how to get it.

Old School Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Not giving a deserved "T" doesn't preserve the integrity of anything. It just points out that an official has no balls. You <b>never</b> walk away from a direct insult.

Disagree. I think it points out the official cares more for the game and the integrity of the game then he does himself. You can't teach this JR. This is the type of referee I want to see move up to the next level because he truly cares about the game. He's not a; it's all about me official.

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That's another great statement. Don't call a deserved "T" because it might piss of the fans. And if you do piss off the fans, that's gonna end your career.
I think you misunderstood this one too chief. I meant ending the coaches career. At some level, whether the T was justified or not, this action by the coach is going to come back to him. Getting a T with 24 seconds left in a one point game is dumb. What I was saying was not calling the T preserved the coaches career for maybe another season or two.

cmathews Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:28am

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Originally Posted by Old School
This sounds like a guy that gets it. You know, that thing they call "IT". This guy gets it, unfortunately, you don't.

A wise man once said; if you got it, you don't need it; if you need it and you don't have it, then you really have no idea, how to get it.

you are aware that this guy that gets "it" is the same guy you have been berating for 3 pages right?? Which really proves how much you actually pay attention. But it is nice of you to argue with his lack of it, then commend him for having it....hmmmmmmm By the way I don't agree with posts from you as a general rule, but I do agree that Snaqwells most likely has "it"

My Oh My...as for extending a coaches career a couple more years...wow...not my concern, and most especially in a 10 yr old's league....I must admit seeing these posts is like a train wreck, I know I shouldn't look, but I can't stop myself LOL....

MajorCord Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:30am

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Originally Posted by Old School
This sounds like a guy that gets it. You know, that thing they call "IT". This guy gets it, unfortunately, you don't.

A wise man once said; if you got it, you don't need it; if you need it and you don't have it, then you really have no idea, how to get it.

Old School, I know where to get IT. On Ebay! I saw the commercial the other day! :D

j51969 Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:34am

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Originally Posted by Old School
On the battlefield, that's like getting hit with a bullet and continuing to fight, paving the way for the others.

You have to be one of the biggest AZZ CLOWNS in the world. I generally don't go around wearing my patriotism on my sleeve. However, as a veteran of Panama, and Desert Storm your analogy is completely ridiculous. NOTHING in sports compares to battle. If you have been in one you would know that. I actually enjoy your idiotic rants on here, it keeps me loose. Since most of your posts are a page long take some more time and write something less disrespectful to those of us who have served. If you have served yourself, your and even bigger idiot.

MajorCord Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:37am

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Originally Posted by Old School
This sounds like a guy that gets it. You know, that thing they call "IT". This guy gets it, unfortunately, you don't.

A wise man once said; if you got it, you don't need it; if you need it and you don't have it, then you really have no idea, how to get it.

:D I got IT!

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/h...g1226HPtag.jpg

Raymond Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:39am

I guess it's time for my monthly "Why are any of you taking Old School seriously?" post. :eek:

deecee Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:55am

i try and just say i will ignore but its true -- its a train wreck that i cannot turn my head away -- so please let him continue.

Adam Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:56am

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Originally Posted by Old School
I think you misunderstood this one too chief. I meant ending the coaches career. At some level, whether the T was justified or not, this action by the coach is going to come back to him. Getting a T with 24 seconds left in a one point game is dumb. What I was saying was not calling the T preserved the coaches career for maybe another season or two.

If a coach is that stupid, his career ought to be cut short; and one T in one game isn't going to help or hurt him.

Husker John Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:12pm

Bawling like a Baby?
 
As I read this post, this is the phrase that stuck with me. Don't know why, but it did. The kids are 9 or 10 and when they fall some will cry. Sometimes the crying doesn't match the nature of the injury.

Don't know if this is the case, but remember at this level these coaches are probably parents and/or friends of the kid. This might be a reason why the coach reacted the way he did.

Sounds like you had reason to T him up, but showed great restraint. Sounds like great advice on how to handle these situations. Keep up the good work.

FMadera Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by Old School
A wise man once said; two wrongs don't make a right, and you can't fight fire with fire unless you won't to burn everything down.

Couldn't have been very wise...

chartrusepengui Fri Mar 09, 2007 01:15pm

Even if you had T'd the coach, and I would have, you would not be taking the game away from the kids. He had already done that with his comments that drew a T. Giving the T might educate the coach and kids about respect for officials.

The score should never dictate whether or not an official makes a call. If there is a foul or violation that has been called consistently throughout the game - it should be called every time it occurs.

I HATE it when I hear someone say something like; "it's a tight one - don't call anything unless there's blood. Let the kids decide it" As far as I'm concerned - the kids do decide it but the deciding factor could have been a player doing something illegal that required an official to make a call.

Jurassic Referee Fri Mar 09, 2007 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by MajorCord
Old School, I know where to get IT. On Ebay! I saw the commercial the other day! :D

Yabut, do you know how to <b>cure</b> IT?


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