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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 01:12pm
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Four "Official" Warnings

From Vinski: "I give him the hand and tell him to back off with an official warning."

Vinski: Be careful about your wording. There are only four official warnings in NFHS rules: defense crossing the plane of the boundary line during a throwin, free throw huddle, interferring with the ball after a basket, and failure to have the court ready, i.e. water on the court, after a time out.

Also, whether or not the NFHS suggests that officials use a visual warning to indicate to the coach that "enough is enough" has been hotly debated on this Forum. Please refer to:
Stop Sign Not Considered Harmful

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 05:34pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac
From Vinski: "I give him the hand and tell him to back off with an official warning."

Vinski: Be careful about your wording. There are only four official warnings in NFHS rules: defense crossing the plane of the boundary line during a throwin, free throw huddle, interferring with the ball after a basket, and failure to have the court ready, i.e. water on the court, after a time out.

Also, whether or not the NFHS suggests that officials use a visual warning to indicate to the coach that "enough is enough" has been hotly debated on this Forum. Please refer to:
Stop Sign Not Considered Harmful
Billy, you are being a bit technical here. These are delay warnings. They have nothing to do with telling a player or coach to knock it off. Please do not be a rulebook official where you forget all common sense.

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 05:53pm
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This is a classic case of a young official trying to find his or her way. There is nothing unusual about what happen. You have not learned how to handle players, what to say, what works, what does not work. Even if you gave a warning there is no guarantee that you will be able to get that point across if you have not learned how to deliver the message. Also 25 games are not a lot of games. There is a lot you will experience before you learn how to handle these situations properly. Even when you think you have it all figured out, you will have something take place you have never dealt with and be caught of guard. I was working post season games all week and I have some challenges during my games. It just comes with the territory.

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 07:19pm
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From JRutledge: "Please do not be a rulebook official where you forget all common sense."

JRutledge: I see your point. The only reason that I brought this up is that Vinski is a rookie official. I would not have picked up on this small technical mistake if he were a veteran official. As a member of my local IAABO board's training committee, I believe that it's important for a new official to really understand the rules, and I didn't want Vinski to start his career thinking that there was such a thing as an "official" warning to a coach that "enough is enough". The veteran's on this Forum can't even agree if the NFHS suggests a visual warning to indicate to the coach that "enough is enough, as I indicated to Vinski in my post to his thread.
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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 08:06pm
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Let's say for a second that I believe in giving a coach the stop sign, which everyone knows I don't. You gave a player the stop sign? And this was a very young kid?
You started off by commenting about how many coaches and how many players you gave technicals this season. Let that thinking go; you are there to do a job and if someone earns a T so what they did it not you.
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Old Sun Mar 04, 2007, 01:10pm
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Thanks a ton for your comments. I’m the first to admit that I had made some mistakes here. I do realize that I didn’t handle the FT procedures for the technical as cleanly as I could have, which as Nevada pointed out may have averted the coach blowing his stack. Also, I may have made too much use of the stop sign, but in my brief experience it was usually enough. However, this game was much different than any other I had done. These coaches thought they were Bobby Night and they were playing for a shot at the NCAA championship.
Also, as mentioned by BillyMac, I did misuse the work “official” in the OP. I didn’t actually go to the table and have the warning recorded, I just gave the hand and said that they had been clearly warned and the Technical was right behind it.
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