Running The Baseline Question

[JAdams]

Can't find this one in either the case book or the rule book, so let me turn to you guys (generic term) out there.

Girls varsity scrimmage last Saturday and the three of us refs and both coaches were killing time during warmups, when one coach asked us our opinions. Situation is after a made shot when the inbound player can run the baseline. Everyone knows that inbounding A1 can pass the ball along the endline to teammate A2 who is also standing out of bounds along the baseline. Question is: can A1 bounce the ball to A2 as long as the ball doesn't touch the end line or any part of the court in bounds?

Followup question is: can a player on the spot before an inbound pass dribble the ball during the five second count?

Opinions appreciated. Have a great season, folks.

[Brad]

can A1 bounce the ball to A2 as long as the ball doesn't touch the end line or any part of the court in bounds?

Absolutely. There is no restriction on bounce passing the ball to your teammate.

can a player on the spot before an inbound pass dribble the ball during the five second count?

If they want to!

There is no restriction on dribbling or traveling, etc. on a throw-in since the ball is not in play on the court. The player can bounce the ball, catch it, bounce it again, dribble it, etc. -- as long as all that and the throw-in itself is done within the 5 second limitation, they're fine.

[Oz Referee]

I concur, from memory this is actually specifically allowed in the FIBA rules.

[mick]

Originally posted by Oz Referee
I concur, from memory this is actually specifically allowed in the FIBA rules.

Duane,
Northern Michigan University, which is about a hundred miles South of me, is starting on their men's team: Three Australians, one West German and one Yooper... and a partridge in a fir tree.
mick

[Mark Padgett]

As Dwayne the Super on "One Day At A Time" would say, "Always remember and never forget" that a player can run the endline after a made or awarded score.

And yes - they can bounce or even roll the ball to another OOB teammate prior to the throw-in pass as long as the ball does not touch inbounds.

And BTW - the ball can touch the endline, since the endline is OOB.

And also BTW - so can the player.

[Oz Referee]

mark, I disagree (what a suprise!).

The player (or ball) cannot touch the endline. The lines are considered to be or zero thickness. that is, if you are out of bounds, the line is part of the court, if your are on the court, the lines are OOB.

[Oz Referee]

Originally posted by mick

Duane,
Northern Michigan University, which is about a hundred miles South of me, is starting on their men's team: Three Australians, one West German and one Yooper... and a partridge in a fir tree.
mick

Mick, there is no doubt that Australia is definitely becoming one of the more successfull basketball nations (at least with individual players, if not as a team). For example, Lauren Jackson - No1. draft in the WNBL.

What are the names of the Aussies? And what on earth is a Yooper?

BTW - the other player is a German, there is no such thing as a West German anymore (as a nationality that is, he may be from the western part of Germany).

[mick]

Originally posted by Oz Referee

Mick, there is no doubt that Australia is definitely becoming one of the more successfull basketball nations (at least with individual players, if not as a team). For example, Lauren Jackson - No1. draft in the WNBL.

What are the names of the Aussies? And what on earth is a Yooper?

BTW - the other player is a German, there is no such thing as a West German anymore (as a nationality that is, he may be from the western part of Germany).

Steve Watts F 6-6 205 Sophomore Perth
Adrian Whitten G 5-9 150 Sophomore Perth

Faster than lightning; drives and dishes in the trees.
Damian Matacz C 6-9 235 Senior Perth

Continually hustles and dives for loose balls anywhere, blocks shots but won't take a 15' jumper

Please note: The above numbres are not metres, kilograms, hands, stones or other alien measures

Yes, I kicked the German description. Thanks for opening my eyes in order for me to be Germanically correct.

Yooper is from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. A peninsula with Lake Superior on top and Lake Michigan below (that is, unless your perspective is the "wrong way to".

mick

[Oz Referee]

I recognise Damian Matacz's name, I think he may have got a bit of press here about his move to the US.

Another player to watch is Anna Crosswhite - playing at Unversity of Virgina, not only is she a pretty good ballplayer, but she's quite easy on the eyes, plus a really nice girl

As far as the German bit, I only mentioned it cause my old man was born in (then West) Berlin, so I sort of notice that sore of thing.

great to see so many players from Down Under make in the US - in the future I think you will see heaps more in the NBA/WNBA

[mick]

Originally posted by Oz Referee
...my old man was born in (then West) Berlin...

Yeah, I noticed that on your site. Cool!

[Oz Referee]

Originally posted by mick

Yeah, I noticed that on your site. Cool!

What people actually read my site? Double Cool!!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Oz Referee
mark, I disagree (what a suprise!).

The player (or ball) cannot touch the endline. The lines are considered to be or zero thickness. that is, if you are out of bounds, the line is part of the court, if your are on the court, the lines are OOB.

Nope - not in NF. The endlines and sidelines are always OOB. As I said in an earlier post, the only line in NF that is weird is the division line. It's in both team's backcourt at the same timebut it never moves!!!

[Edited by Mark Padgett on Nov 19th, 2001 at 10:29 PM]

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Oz Referee
mark, I disagree (what a suprise!).

The player (or ball) cannot touch the endline. The lines are considered to be or zero thickness. that is, if you are out of bounds, the line is part of the court, if your are on the court, the lines are OOB.

This other Mark is going to have to disagree with you, Oz.

Maybe things are different with the whole metric system but in NF and NCAA rules, the inside (courtside) edge of the line is what counts - specifically the plane formed at the boundary.

The easy way to remember this is to remember that if a court has the 8 inch "band" of paint, the player is allowed to stand on that for a throw-in, a regular line is no different.

[mick]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Nope - not in NF. The endlines and sidelines are always OOB. As I said in an earlier post, the only line in NF that is weird is the division line. It's in one teams frontcourt and the other teams backcourt at the same time! Then, it switches - but it never moves!!!

He's talking line (no depth, no width, only length).
College kids....

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by mick
He's talking line (no depth, no width, only length).
College kids....

However, a true line is imaginary, and cannot be displayed in our real world.

For a good one, you should see a discussion I was part of 2-3 seasons ago on the McGriff board about the "top" of a fan backboard.