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FrankHtown Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:16pm

The most interesting thing is EVERY coach wants this called intentional...except if it's against his/her team!

cmathews Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by FrankHtown
The most interesting thing is EVERY coach wants this called intentional...except if it's against his/her team!

as is the case with traveling, double dribble, pushes and charges :D

WhistlesAndStripes Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:41pm

OK, I watched it this morning. Even one of the TV Announcers, I belive Fran Fraschilla (sp), said, "I would called it." (intentional)

Scrapper1 Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:57pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
Even one of the TV Announcers said, "I would called it." (intentional)

Oh, the announcer said it?? In that case, it must've been intentional! :rolleyes:

Nevadaref Fri Mar 02, 2007 04:37pm

If anyone missed this and wants another shot at seeing it, the game is being shown as an instant classic on ESPN Classic right now.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 02, 2007 04:55pm

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater
Our Association had a pre-Playoff meeting where we were told if you hear a Coach directly tell his players to foul then it was to be called intentional. When I questioned the fact that just telling the kids to foul does not fit the definition of Intentional, I was told that most times the foul will not be a legal attempt to play the ball and it is to be called as such. I just had to agree to disagree and do what they wanted.

FYI, I have only had to make this call 2 times in 12 games. Each time the coach would call out a color like RED and his player would run up and foul the opposition. Once was on a ball carrier and one was just a blatent body check to a girl running up the floor.

That's very disappointing to hear that you are being instructed to call it that way.
As Bob said this interpretation by the FED has changed. You should show your association leaders the following:

2005-06 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
3. Intentional Fouls.
B. Late in the game.
...
There is a right way and a wrong way to foul. Coaches must instruct their players in the proper technique for strategic fouling. "Going for the ball" is a common phrase heard, but intentional fouls should still be called on players who go for the ball if it is not done properly. Conversely, a coach who yells, "Foul!" instructions to his or her team does not mean the ensuing foul is "automatically" an intentional foul – even though it is a strategic foul designed to stop the clock. Coaches, officials, players, fans and administrators must accept fouling as a legitimate coaching strategy.


The old NFHS policy that has been superceded by the above came from the 2000-01 season.

NFHS 2000-01 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
Intentional Fouls - Excessive Contact
...
Acts that MUST be deemed intentional include:
• grabbing a player from behind;
wrapping the arms around a player;
• grabbing a player away from the ball;
• grabbing or shoving a player from behind when an easy basket may be scored;
• grabbing/holding a player by the jersey in order to impede their progress;
when coach/player says "watch, we're going to foul;" and
• excessive contact on a player attempting a shot.


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