Player leaves court

[Vinski]

Was watching a GV playoff game the other evening and came across an unusual situation. A1 commits a foul on B1 and gets called for it. This leaves A1 visibly unhappy with the call. It was a bonus situation, so as the players where lining up for the free throws, A1 simply walks off the floor and sits down at the bench. No subs or anything. The officials saw this and actually appeared to be giving her a little extra time to get back on the floor before the ball was administer to the free-throw shoot. As soon as the ball was given to the shooter, the trail immediately signaled the technical foul.
Now, I can’t seem to find in the rule book exactly what went down here (I’m a rookie so can’t find things quickly yet). But was the T for leaving the court, or unsporting moping or for the coach not having 5 players on the court or something else. Also, if she would have returned before the ball was administered to the shooter would all have been well? Thanks.

[Adam]

Mostly likely and easiest to justify, it was for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason. It could have also been for unsportsmanlike conduct. Either way, it doesn't matter.
It sounds to me like they gave her a chance to correct herself. They could have called the T as soon as she sat down, but gave her a little more rope.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Mostly likely and easiest to justify, it was for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason. It could have also been for unsportsmanlike conduct. Either way, it doesn't matter.
It sounds to me like they gave her a chance to correct herself. They could have called the T as soon as she sat down, but gave her a little more rope.

In this case the T would have to be for unsporting conduct. It certainly does matter as leaving the floor for an unauthorized reason is NOT a technical foul; it is a violation and that rule only applies during a live ball. In the situation presented the player left during a dead ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In this case the T would have to be for unsporting conduct. It certainly does matter as leaving the floor for an unauthorized reason is NOT a technical foul; it is a violation and that rule only applies during a live ball. In the situation presented the player left during a dead ball.

Dammit! I got them mixed up again. It's failure to return after leaving for an authorized reason that's a T. That may be what they gave it to her for. My bad!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dammit! I got them mixed up again. It's failure to return after leaving for an authorized reason that's a T. That may be what they gave it to her for. My bad!

I doubt that is why the T was given since this player was not OOB for an authorized reason and thus did not delay returning after being legally OOB.

Now I'm just messing with you, Adam.

[Vinski]

I don’t think anyone authorized her to leave the court. She just left and sat down. She still hadn’t returned to the court even after the officials gave the ball to the shooter. So, wouldn’t that be a T situation?

[grunewar]

I believe for starters leaving the court is just a violation, not a T. D

efinitely unsporting behavior and "T"able!

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Vinski

Was watching a GV playoff game the other evening and came across an unusual situation. A1 commits a foul on B1 and gets called for it. This leaves A1 visibly unhappy with the call. It was a bonus situation, so as the players where lining up for the free throws, A1 simply walks off the floor and sits down at the bench. No subs or anything. The officials saw this and actually appeared to be giving her a little extra time to get back on the floor before the ball was administer to the free-throw shoot. As soon as the ball was given to the shooter, the trail immediately signaled the technical foul.
Now, I can’t seem to find in the rule book exactly what went down here (I’m a rookie so can’t find things quickly yet). But was the T for leaving the court, or unsporting moping or for the coach not having 5 players on the court or something else. Also, if she would have returned before the ball was administered to the shooter would all have been well? Thanks.

The instant A1's tushie hit the bench, she was getting a TF for unsportsmanlike behavior. End of story.

MTD, Sr.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The instant A1's tushie hit the bench, she was getting a TF for unsportsmanlike behavior. End of story.

Exactly. And all you have to say is "unsportsmanlike conduct" too. No need for paralysis by analysis(commonly known as "death by overthinking")..

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Exactly. And all you have to say is "unsportsmanlike conduct" too. No need for paralysis by analysis(commonly known as "death by overthinking")..

JR:

You know me, why use ten words and one picture when I can you 10,000 words and 1,000 pictures.

MTD, Sr.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

JR:

You know me, why use ten words and one picture when I can you 10,000 words and 1,000 pictures.

MTD, Sr.

Yabut, Mark.........

You're not doing that in this particular situation. You're just calling a common-sense technical foul without analyzing that call to death. Gotta give you the proper credit for that.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yabut, Mark.........

You're not doing that in this particular situation. You're just calling a common-sense technical foul without analyzing that call to death. Gotta give you the proper credit for that.

JR:

You should record this date as one of my shortest posts ever.

MTD, Sr.

[TRef21]

Originally Posted by Vinski

Was watching a GV playoff game the other evening and came across an unusual situation. A1 commits a foul on B1 and gets called for it. This leaves A1 visibly unhappy with the call. It was a bonus situation, so as the players where lining up for the free throws, A1 simply walks off the floor and sits down at the bench. No subs or anything. The officials saw this and actually appeared to be giving her a little extra time to get back on the floor before the ball was administer to the free-throw shoot. As soon as the ball was given to the shooter, the trail immediately signaled the technical foul.
Now, I can’t seem to find in the rule book exactly what went down here (I’m a rookie so can’t find things quickly yet). But was the T for leaving the court, or unsporting moping or for the coach not having 5 players on the court or something else. Also, if she would have returned before the ball was administered to the shooter would all have been well? Thanks.

I would tell the coach: " Coach she just took herself off the court. Either you make the sub for her now or she will be charged a technical foul for actions."

That's just me though.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by TRef21

I would tell the coach: " Coach she just took herself off the court. Either you make the sub for her now or she will be charged a technical foul for actions."

That's just me though.

So you would ignore unsporting conduct merely because the coach is subbing that player out of the game?

Or perhaps you have a different reason for charging this player with a technical foul. If so, let's hear it.

Would you still say the same thing to the coach if A2 was the player who left the court and sat on the bench?

Just trying to understand your thinking on this one.

[TRef21]

I would. Now if she someone else does it again, then we have a tech. It's a playoff game and that could be a situation where it could come down because of that tech. Was the act flagrant? No. Was it stupid? Yes. Would you want to be the one that's in the locker room with the evaluators explaning a technical foul because the player left court cause she was pissed? If you can prevent it then get her off and force that on the coach as his warning for the players conduct. Next time they do it you have a direct technical towards any from unsportsmanlike conduct. This is just my thought though.