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[PIAA REF]

I think you are using a case that doesn't fit the situation. This is my opinion I do not have my books with me at work, but I will leave you with this. If you did this im my area during the playoffs while being evaluated you would be told you were wrong. 100%, yes the T is legit but not the toss. The reason I said playoffs is that is where we are evaluated (sometimes)
I am not trying to get into a pissing match with you at all, I just do not agree with an ejection.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

I think you are using a case that doesn't fit the situation. This is my opinion I do not have my books with me at work, but I will leave you with this. If you did this im my area during the playoffs while being evaluated you would be told you were wrong. 100%, yes the T is legit but not the toss. The reason I said playoffs is that is where we are evaluated (sometimes)
I am not trying to get into a pissing match with you at all, I just do not agree with an ejection.

Sometimes evaluators are morons, too.

He was (1) personal and (2) profane.

It's funny, in baseball just saying "you're horrible" would be an near-automatic ejection. Toss in an f-bomb adjective and some wouldn't eject in a basketball game?

Wow. Just wow.

I don't need a rule book or case book to point towards the locker room and say, "Go there."

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

I think you are using a case that doesn't fit the situation. This is my opinion I do not have my books with me at work, but I will leave you with this. If you did this im my area during the playoffs while being evaluated you would be told you were wrong. 100%, yes the T is legit but not the toss. The reason I said playoffs is that is where we are evaluated (sometimes)

That's kinda sad I think.

IMO a HS player that screams "you are f'ing horrible!" at the officials opens himself up to immediate DQ. Why work for an assignor who doesn't agree?

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

I think you are using a case that doesn't fit the situation.

But if we're calling consistently throughout the game, then it really doesn't matter that it took place during the game as opposed to after the game. I agree, it is a little different, but I believe that one of the keys here is that profanity, directed specificly at an officials, is flagrant.

Here's why I thought this one should be flagrant.

1.) You're horrible- Criticizing you personally.
2.) Throw in the f-bomb- Now he's criticizing you personally, with profanity.
3.) The volume- This was loud, loud enough that I could clearly hear it in the stands.

I always thought this was a no-brainer flagrant, but now I'm starting to rethink it a bit.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

I think you are using a case that doesn't fit the situation.

How does it not fit? Is it okay for a player to do it but not a coach? Is it okay during the game but not after? Seriously, how is this different?