Ohio State vs Wisconsin

[JRutledge]

I thought considering how poorly the game was played, I did not think the officiating was bad at all. I guess you are looking for people to blame the officials for what took place. I thought there were 3 great travel calls on Oden. There were many great no-calls on blocks and the replay confirmed them. If you expected nothing to be missed, that would not be very realistic.

Peace

[uxley11]

No, no, no. I don't expect everything to be called. Bu when Oden is being slapped, and punched right in the ref's face, or when Terwilliger went out of bounds to save the ball and the player held his arm. I expect those to be called. I only think Oden traveled once, and the other two were "assisted". I mean Ohio State won in a fantastic game. And Wisconsin is a hell of a team. But I can't help but think that Ohio State would have won that game by 5-10 points if the refs would have called some fouls underneath. Just me maybe.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by uxley11

No, no, no. I don't expect everything to be called. Bu when Oden is being slapped, and punched right in the ref's face, or when Terwilliger went out of bounds to save the ball and the player held his arm. I expect those to be called. I only think Oden traveled once, and the other two were "assisted". I mean Ohio State won in a fantastic game. And Wisconsin is a hell of a team. But I can't help but think that Ohio State would have won that game by 5-10 points if the refs would have called some fouls underneath. Just me maybe.

Punched and slapped? That is a bit overly dramatic don't you think? I saw a lot of physical play on the part of both Oden and the person guarding him. And I disagree with you on the Oden travels. Basketball is a contact sport BTW. If Oden wants to spin off the body of his opponent, then do it without moving your pivot foot. And the officials were very consistent in calling it. And getting your shot blocked, contact is not only possible but often necessary. You probably did not see the replays, I did. The blocks were very clean.

I know it is all the official's fault.

Peace

[Mregor]

I'm a Wisconsin fan and thought Oden set illegal picks several times. Hip checking the defender to clear his guard coming around. I watched the whole game and if I hadn't known the score, I would have thought Wisconsin lost by much more. They can play better. When Butch went down, it looked like he had a golf ball sticking out the back of his elbow. Ouch! I enjoyed the #1 ranking for a whole day. That was a tough road trip, @MSU and OSU back-to-back like that. Bo is a great coach. He gets the most out of his players and teaches fundamental basketball. Go Badgers!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by uxley11

No, no, no. I don't expect everything to be called. Bu when Oden is being slapped, and punched right in the ref's face, or when Terwilliger went out of bounds to save the ball and the player held his arm. I expect those to be called. I only think Oden traveled once, and the other two were "assisted". I mean Ohio State won in a fantastic game. And Wisconsin is a hell of a team. But I can't help but think that Ohio State would have won that game by 5-10 points if the refs would have called some fouls underneath. Just me maybe.

Fanboy.

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Fanboy.

I second that motion! Saw one of the three travel calls, as I was in and out during the game, but from what I saw, seemed like a well officiated game overall. From what I saw of the game, I'm agreeing with JRut.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Fanboy.

Nah. Just mad Ohio St. didn't cover the spread.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by uxley11

No, no, no. I don't expect everything to be called. Bu when Oden is being slapped, and punched right in the ref's face, or when Terwilliger went out of bounds to save the ball and the player held his arm. I expect those to be called.

I only saw about 2 minutes of the game so I have no opinion. But uxley, I was just wondering, weren't there any calls that went against Wisconsin that the refs missed or did they just miss calls that went against OSU?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I only saw about 2 minutes of the game so I have no opinion. But uxley, I was just wondering, weren't there any calls that went against Wisconsin that the refs missed or did they just miss calls that went against OSU?

uxley, still waiting for a response to my post as well as a couple others. Why did you pick the post concerning the fans as the only one you answered?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by uxley11

No, no, no. I don't expect everything to be called. Bu when Oden is being slapped, and punched right in the ref's face, or when Terwilliger went out of bounds to save the ball and the player held his arm. I expect those to be called. I only think Oden traveled once, and the other two were "assisted". I mean Ohio State won in a fantastic game. And Wisconsin is a hell of a team. But I can't help but think that Ohio State would have won that game by 5-10 points if the refs would have called some fouls underneath. Just me maybe.

There were a number of drives where it appeared Tucker or Taylor got fouled, but it's the nature of a game like this. Officials aren't going to turn it into a foul fest. Oden is just as physical (on both ends) and physical play is going to bring (by good teams) equally physical play.

Look at your analysis again and ask yourself if you're applying the same level of scrutiny when Wisconsin has the ball.

[sj]

I saw only part of it but I'll say this. And I don't mean this disrespectfully at all. But if you were a ref you would know when a fan complains and thinks a play should be called a particular way the fact is that the fans will be flat wrong about 9 out of 10 times. And the other time they are probably wrong as well. It's just that you don't know what to look for. It is highly doubtful that Oden got slapped and punched. And based on the other refs descriptions of the travels it there was contact on those plays Oden probably initiated it.

In any given game it would be that maybe 1, maybe 2 on the outside, calls that any crew would like to have the chance to call again. As a fan you need to understand that sitting in the stands and watching a handful of games each year is no replacement for the hundreds of games, maybe even thousands of games, that this crew has worked over the years. I wouldn't dream of criticizing a heart surgeon because I don't know beans about it. The same holds true for fans and the Billy Packers on the subject of officiating

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by sj

In any given game it would be that maybe 1, maybe 2 on the outside, calls that any crew would like to have the chance to call again.

I didn't see the game and have no opinion, but I think SJ's numbers are a bit off. I have heard several times that 80% (correct calls) would be great at the D1 level. 1 or 2 calls a game would probably happen with a NBA crew.

[dan74]

Although my team lost, I thought the officials did a fine job. It was Big Ten basketball. Both teams got to bang a bit. Hopefully Butch will be back soon and the Bucky's can get by them in the Big Ten tourney.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by dan74

Although my team lost, I thought the officials did a fine job. It was Big Ten basketball. Both teams got to bang a bit. Hopefully Butch will be back soon and the Bucky's can get by them in the Big Ten tourney.

He will be out 4-6 weeks. I know we wish nobody gets hurt, but I bet the Badgers wished this happened 4-6 weeks ago.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I didn't see the game and have no opinion, but I think SJ's numbers are a bit off. I have heard several times that 80% (correct calls) would be great at the D1 level.

Just so I don't misunderstand, are you saying that you would consider a D1 official to be doing a "great" job if he/she got only 80% of his/her calls correct?

I would think that's appallingly low for a "great" performance.