Ohio State vs Wisconsin

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I only saw about 2 minutes of the game so I have no opinion. But uxley, I was just wondering, weren't there any calls that went against Wisconsin that the refs missed or did they just miss calls that went against OSU?

uxley, still waiting for a response to my post as well as a couple others. Why did you pick the post concerning the fans as the only one you answered?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by uxley11

Actually Ohio State could have been #2 depending on how you looked at it. And they stormed the court because they won this one thing. Oh, the Big 10 Championship for the second straight year. And you said why did fans storm the court at their own HOME. Where else can you storm the court? If this game was at Wisconsin and it was the same result, and you were a Buckeye fan would you storm the court?

It's been known to happen. Not too long ago Iowa Hawkeye fans tore down the goal posts at Minnesota.
His point was, as a #1 team, the fans shouldn't get that excited about a home win.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mj

I guess you forgot that Wisconsin shot a total of one free throw in the second half? The free throw which Ohio State had to foul 3 times in 5 seconds to get to the bonus.

I thought the officiating was just fine...

He wasn't scrutinizing the officiating at THAT end of the court, silly.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by sj

In any given game it would be that maybe 1, maybe 2 on the outside, calls that any crew would like to have the chance to call again.

I didn't see the game and have no opinion, but I think SJ's numbers are a bit off. I have heard several times that 80% (correct calls) would be great at the D1 level. 1 or 2 calls a game would probably happen with a NBA crew.

[dan74]

Although my team lost, I thought the officials did a fine job. It was Big Ten basketball. Both teams got to bang a bit. Hopefully Butch will be back soon and the Bucky's can get by them in the Big Ten tourney.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by dan74

Although my team lost, I thought the officials did a fine job. It was Big Ten basketball. Both teams got to bang a bit. Hopefully Butch will be back soon and the Bucky's can get by them in the Big Ten tourney.

He will be out 4-6 weeks. I know we wish nobody gets hurt, but I bet the Badgers wished this happened 4-6 weeks ago.

[wildcatter]

I thought the officials did a good job too, the game was just sloopy.

But personally, without a Tivo or DVR, I can rarely see the travels when they happen... anyone else have this problem?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I didn't see the game and have no opinion, but I think SJ's numbers are a bit off. I have heard several times that 80% (correct calls) would be great at the D1 level.

Just so I don't misunderstand, are you saying that you would consider a D1 official to be doing a "great" job if he/she got only 80% of his/her calls correct?

I would think that's appallingly low for a "great" performance.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Just so I don't misunderstand, are you saying that you would consider a D1 official to be doing a "great" job if he/she got only 80% of his/her calls correct?

I would think that's appallingly low for a "great" performance.

You are probably underestimating what a good/great performance is at that level. Or perhaps you are of the opinion that if Official X calls a call, it must be right because of where he's been and what he's done.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You are probably underestimating what a good/great performance is at that level.

That's possible, I suppose. But do you really think that if you blew 2 out of every 10 block/charge calls, you'd be considered a "great" official?

Or perhaps you are of the opinion that if Official X calls a call, it must be right because of where he's been and what he's done.

No, honestly, I don't think that. I understand that all kinds of things contribute to getting an official hired at that level. But at some point, you have to be able to call plays. And to say that 80% correct is "great" means that some lower percentage like 60% would be considered good or acceptable. And I just can't see how that's possible.

Here's another thing to consider. Not all of our calls gets whistles. We probably have 6-8 calls per possession when it comes to legal dribbles, or incidental contact after a pass, or legal/illegal screens. If you consider all those calls in a game, I think the percentage has to be a lot higher than 80% to be great.

If you're only talking about whistles, then it might be a little lower to be great, but 80% still seems low to me.

[jkjenning]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Just so I don't misunderstand, are you saying that you would consider a D1 official to be doing a "great" job if he/she got only 80% of his/her calls correct?

I would think that's appallingly low for a "great" performance.

I think you have to factor into this that judgment plays a part in each block/charge call and evaluations of such calls [mostly likely taking place in slo-mo while the calls are made real-time] would give opportunity for anyone to second guess several of their own decisions... throw in the fact that someone else may be the judge of correctness and now their judgment clouds the issue and 80% starts to look pretty good!

[stmaryrams]

I was watching the game in the lounge before our Association banquet with about 15 other basketball officials. Not a one said anything about the travel calls - he did!

The room did cringe when the last shot was blocked expecting a foul call with the body. The replay did show otherwise. Well done by the officials. Interesting that Steve Welmer was one of the crew working the game. To attach back to another thread it yet another game in a row for Mr Welmer.

BTW - The guest speaker was former Ohio State standout and now part time radio host Jay Burson. Jay Burson held the Ohio High School career scoring record until last Friday night when he was surpassed by none other than THE Jon Diebler. Burson and family were guests of the school for the game. About 2000 packed into a gym that holds 1500 (where's the fire marshall?). Fans gave Burson a standing "O" upon his entering into the gym. They passed out those give away basketballs. Jay said he thought he signed every single one. The best part was when his own 6 year old son asked him to sign a ball, not knowing why everyone else was asking for his dad's autograph.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by stmaryrams

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BTW - The guest speaker was former Ohio State standout and now part time radio host Jay Burson. Jay Burson held the Ohio High School career scoring record until last Friday night when he was surpassed by none other than THE Jon Diebler...

You almost had me going there stmaryrams. Then you throw in this part and you lose all credibility. Jon Diebler passed away last month, how could he break the Ohio scoring record?

[BLydic]

http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/621365.html

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BLydic

http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/621365.html

This is obviously one of those hoax websites. Look at how many people they say attended the game:

Originally Posted by scout.com

Matta was just one of approximately 1,7000 people that crowded into an electric setting

Also, look at his jersey, that's not a real team:

Plus they say he dunked. Yeah right. I've never seen a white guy from Ohio dunk.

Originally Posted by scout.com

Diebler intercepted a pass at mid-court with 3:11 left in the game and took it all the way to the hoop for a thunderous slam-dunk