I Didin't want to hijack the survey thread...but an observation

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

I am a little surprised at how few T's people have issued. In reading this forum all season, the veterans were pretty vocal about having the cajones to issue T's when necessary. I consider myself pretty patient, yet I have issued eight this year. To see the 1's and 0's, leads me to believe that we may be too tolerant of some behavior which leads to the deterioration of standards that some have lamented about this year.

I gave out about 5 T's this year. Four of them were when I helped out with an afternoon frosh or JV game. For the most part, varsity coaches have learned their limits along the way. They let us ref and stick to coaching. The lower-level coaches haven't all caught on yet.

[grunewar]

You also didn't ask how many our partner's gave out.....

As a junior guy, I watched my more senior partners issue more than me. And I learned from it.....good and bad!

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by zebraman

I gave out about 5 T's this year. Four of them were when I helped out with an afternoon frosh or JV game. For the most part, varsity coaches have learned their limits along the way. They let us ref and stick to coaching. The lower-level coaches haven't all caught on yet.

If you think frosh and JV are bad, try college intramurals. Players with middle school ability, the ego of an NBA All-Star, and the temperament of a bunch of wet cats makes for a nasty combination.

Partners, when working college intramural games, are a crap shoot. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're not. Most, however, are in it for the check, and don't care whether they get any respect or not. I, on the other hand, address unsportsmanlike conduct in the pregame captains meeting, and T it up from there. I've found that, as the season progresses, I'm giving fewer Ts because the teams I ref know I won't stand for it.

I'm a newbie, and there are a lot of people on here with more experience than me, but just my two cent.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by NewNCref

If you think frosh and JV are bad, try college intramurals. Players with middle school ability, the ego of an NBA All-Star, and the temperament of a bunch of wet cats makes for a nasty combination.

Many of us have, this is why we do not work those games at all.

Peace

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Many of us have, this is why we do not work those games at all.

But at the end of the day, there's nothing more comforting than knowing that you're "the least competant official on the face of the earth", you "don't know anything about basketball", or that, my personal favorite, "there's a reason they only pay [you] minimum wage" just to quote a few of the players who admire me so much.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by NewNCref

But at the end of the day, there's nothing more comforting than knowing that you're "the least competant official on the face of the earth", you "don't know anything about basketball", or that, my personal favorite, "there's a reason they only pay [you] minimum wage" just to quote a few of the players who admire me so much.

I'm sure that you are quick to point out that ". . .there's a reason you aren't playing for a REAL team!"

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

I'm sure that you are quick to point out that ". . .there's a reason you aren't playing for a REAL team!"

I think it, and then we officials just get a good chuckle out of it after the game.

[Adam]

Wow, you get this from kids often? Most of the high school kids I reffed this year were very well behaved. My last game of the year, I called a foul on a kid and he started to cry about it. All I had to do was make eye contact with him and he immediately stopped and apologized.
For that, I have to give credit to the refs in this area for not taking crap in previous years.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by NewNCref

But at the end of the day, there's nothing more comforting than knowing that you're "the least competant official on the face of the earth", you "don't know anything about basketball", or that, my personal favorite, "there's a reason they only pay [you] minimum wage" just to quote a few of the players who admire me so much.

You might ask who paid to see them play in a lighter moment. Or you could scan the 'crowd'. When he asks what you are doing, you could tell him you are looking for the sports reporter that is doing the write-up on the game and who will put his name in the paper. Then you shrug and say, "I guess he's not here. Again."