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Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 14, 2007 09:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomegun
Rec ball is the same old problem to me. If we all did it right, the players would adjust or someone in the league would get different officials. If we all were on the same page they would either adjust or play the games with no refs.

True. And assignors also have to back their officials up when they do it right.

Big2Cat Wed Feb 14, 2007 02:58pm

Weak reasoning. Now it is simply a matter of strength and how much contact you think a player should be able to handle. When I am coaching my junior high team I get so tired of little guys climbing on my big guys and officials not calling fouls because my guy "is so much bigger". It is a foul to push him or hit his arms on a try.

If I am running to receive a ball and I am a little off balance, the tiny shove might send me out of bounds, whereas without the shove I can regain my balance and stay inbounds. Now it comes down to whether or not you think I am big enough or strong enough to stay inbounds? You are now making your own rules to the game.

Getting pushed out after all my hustle puts me at an extreme disadvantage. Call the foul.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Feb 14, 2007 06:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
That part I'll disagree with. If contact does put someone at a <b>disadvantage</b>, it should be a foul. If no one gains or loses an advantage through contact, it shouldn't be a foul.


JR:

Thank you. Well said.

MTD, Sr.

Adam Wed Feb 14, 2007 07:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big2Cat
Weak reasoning. Now it is simply a matter of strength and how much contact you think a player should be able to handle. When I am coaching my junior high team I get so tired of little guys climbing on my big guys and officials not calling fouls because my guy "is so much bigger". It is a foul to push him or hit his arms on a try.

No, it's not. It's a foul if it creates an advantage or affects his shot. If a kid pushes on him and it doesn't move him, how is it a foul? If a kid slaps his arm on a shot and his shot isn't affected, how is it a foul?
The rule says it's not a foul.


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