Indiana HS Officials...need your help!!

[MajorCord]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW if you wish to discuss accidental contact, what criteria do you use to decide when to call a foul and when not to on that type of contact?

What would you call on this play:
B1 falls to the floor at the FT line. A1 is dribbling the ball and doesn't see B1. A1 trips over B1, falls to the floor, and loses the ball. B2 gets the ball.

Nevada, what is the answer?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by MajorCord

Nevada, what is the answer?

FED: Play on. B is entitled to the position on the floor.

NCAA: Block on B.

[Indy_Ref]

Appreciate all your comments & emails to old Coach T! From a very good source, speculation is...he has gotten over 1000 emails from coaches, officials, & fans from across the country. In fact, he posted an apology recently...

http://www.hoosierauthority.com/Spor...id=164&id=4380

[DC_Ref12]

I don't know who this guy is and I don't know how "good" of a coach he is. I don't know his W-L record and frankly I don't care because the statement below tells me all I need to know about what "kind" of a coach he is:

I can’t really apologize for the way I felt when I wrote that article. Please keep in mind that it came on the heels of a gut-wrenching defeat. Losing has always brought out the worst in me.

That, folks, says it all.

[JoeTheRef]

What would you call on this play:
B1 falls to the floor at the FT line. A1 is dribbling the ball and doesn't see B1. A1 trips over B1, falls to the floor, and loses the ball. B2 gets the ball.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FED: Play on. B is entitled to the position on the floor.

NCAA: Block on B.

Is the FED answer correct? Would both FED & NCAA be blocking? I understand B is entitled to the position on the floor, but is he in a legal guarding position? If I have this play in my HS game, I'm probably calling the block and telling the coach if asked, the player never established LGP.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

What would you call on this play:
B1 falls to the floor at the FT line. A1 is dribbling the ball and doesn't see B1. A1 trips over B1, falls to the floor, and loses the ball. B2 gets the ball.



Is the FED answer correct? Would both FED & NCAA be blocking? I understand B is entitled to the position on the floor, but is he in a legal guarding position? If I have this play in my HS game, I'm probably calling the block and telling the coach if asked, the player never established LGP.

The play, as described, has nothing to do with LGP. LGP gives the defender "extra" rights, but B is still entitled to the spot on the floor (literally) provided he gets there first legally.

[MadCityRef]

How about IHSSA referees boycott his games? His AD must endorse his behavior, but other ADs in his league will get peeved when they can't scrape up anyone decent.

Schools need us more than we need them.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

How about IHSSA referees boycott his games? His AD must endorse his behavior, but other ADs in his league will get peeved when they can't scrape up anyone decent.

Schools need us more than we need them.

I do not think that is realistic. I think he has put a big fat bull’s eye on his back though. I am sure some officials will keep that in mind when he starts complaining about calls and behaves as a total jerk. I do not know of boycotting is going to completely work. I am sure officials already know what kind of coach he is or is not.

Peace

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The play, as described, has nothing to do with LGP. LGP gives the defender "extra" rights, but B is still entitled to the spot on the floor (literally) provided he gets there first legally.

Gotcha bob, by rule, what do you mean "provided he gets there first legally"? I'm trying to picture the play where B1 tripped and is laying on the floor, where A1 who as player control doesn't see him and trips over him.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

Gotcha bob, by rule, what do you mean "provided he gets there first legally"? I'm trying to picture the play where B1 tripped and is laying on the floor, where A1 who as player control doesn't see him and trips over him.

And please understand, I ask as a learning experience, and not at as critical point of view. THanks.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JoeTheRef

And please understand, I ask as a learning experience, and not at as critical point of view. THanks.

Play: Clueless B1, distracted by something shiny in the stands, stops at the top of the key and stares at the bright object. A1 rebounds a shot in the middle of the lane and turns to go up court. He contacts the still clueless B1, gathers the ball and takes three steps. Ruling: traveling. B1 was entitled to the spot on the floor. Since B1 was never facing A1, B1 never had LGP, but that doesn't matter.