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blindzebra Wed Feb 07, 2007 01:08pm

Had a 7-8 year old youth coach once give me the, "It's 7 to 2 ref, come on!" Not a single touch foul in those 7, all hard contact and most had a kid on the floor. Again I hear, "Come on it's 7 to 2."

I go over and say, "So what are you saying?" "Are we incompetent or cheating, because I want to know just what this T is going to be for."

bgtg19 Wed Feb 07, 2007 01:12pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
I actually had this happen to me this year - I called a travel on the V team in the first half. As I'm going past the V coach, he says, "Look, I don't disagree that was a travel, but you guys have called 7 travels on us and only 2 on them!" (Geez, now they're keeping track of travel calls?...) Well, along the lines of Nevada's response, I looked up and saw the fouls were H-4, V-0....

First half, if the fouls are 4-0, it must still be the first quarter. You had nine travel violations in the first quarter?! That must have been some bad basketball....

fiasco Wed Feb 07, 2007 01:14pm

Conversly, this reminds me of one of my favorite officiating stories.

ACC game in the late 80s or so, and Jim Valvano was not happy with the way a game was being called. As one of the officials is near the bench, Jimmy says "Hey (I can't recall his name right now)...can you T me up for what I'm thinking?"

Confused, the official says "No, of course not."

Jimmy shoots back: "Good. Cause I think you suck."

Official is laughing too hard to give him the T.

M&M Guy Wed Feb 07, 2007 01:14pm

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Originally Posted by bgtg19
First half, if the fouls are 4-0, it must still be the first quarter. You had nine travel violations in the first quarter?! That must have been some bad basketball....

Actually, it was a college game, so it was the first half.

And, yea, it wasn't the best game I'd ever seen... ;)

Easttnref Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:15am

One of the guys in my crew told a coach the other night who was complaining about the fouls being uneven that he should be happy about it...cuz it was the only place he was ahead on the scoreboard all nite! lol

mj Thu Feb 08, 2007 09:54am

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Originally Posted by fiasco
Conversly, this reminds me of one of my favorite officiating stories.

ACC game in the late 80s or so, and Jim Valvano was not happy with the way a game was being called. As one of the officials is near the bench, Jimmy says "Hey (I can't recall his name right now)...can you T me up for what I'm thinking?"

Confused, the official says "No, of course not."

Jimmy shoots back: "Good. Cause I think you suck."

Official is laughing too hard to give him the T.

Hank Nichols was the official. I just read it in a book by John Feinstein.

buckrog64 Thu Feb 08, 2007 01:32pm

Watched a tightly called large school boys game the other night, and these guys called the first quarter real tight. 11 fouls (6/5) by at the end of 8 minutes, and very little chirping from the coaches, only on the close ones.
2nd quarter was clean, same with rest of game until things were tight and fouling 'had to be done.' Those guys accomplished what I would guess is their approach and the rest of the game moved along real well. You hear, 'let is play,' and after the teams adjusted to the officiating, that's what they did. They played.

fiasco Thu Feb 08, 2007 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by mj
Hank Nichols was the official. I just read it in a book by John Feinstein.

A March to Madness, right? That's a great book.

Ref Daddy Thu Feb 08, 2007 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin
Oldie, but a goodie . . . "Coach, I don't count 'em, I just call 'em."

My Coach(s) respond with: "Well, then call more on them ..... " :eek:

Ignats75 Thu Feb 08, 2007 02:42pm

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My Coach(s) respond with: "Well, then call more on them ..... "
"OK Coach. Here's another one."

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K-Bach Thu Feb 08, 2007 07:46pm

Two nights ago, during a timeout...

Coach finishes with his players and turns in my direction. "The fouls are 8 to 2."

From my spot on the floor, I look up to the scoreboard and wait until the 15 second horn (about 10 seconds). "Yes, I believe you're right."

mplagrow Thu Feb 08, 2007 07:52pm

Worst case
 
The worst case of lopsided fouls I ever saw occured last year. By the middle of the third quarter, we'd called 14 fouls on the home team and none on the visitors. The coach was absolutely livid. It got to the point that I was afraid he'd start yelling and screaming when we finally called one on the visiting team, something like, "They've been doing THAT all game, why are you going to start calling it NOW?" He didn't say anything.

I do remember his comment in one rant: "I've never seen anything like this before!" My immediate response was, "Neither have I!"

If he would have known anything about coaching, he'd see the difference (other than the fact that his team was small and outclassed). His boys sat on the perimeter and shot 3's they couldn't hit. The other team drove the lane.

26 Year Gap Thu Feb 08, 2007 08:34pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
Had a 7-8 year old youth coach once give me the, "It's 7 to 2 ref, come on!" Not a single touch foul in those 7, all hard contact and most had a kid on the floor. Again I hear, "Come on it's 7 to 2."

I go over and say, "So what are you saying?" "Are we incompetent or cheating, because I want to know just what this T is going to be for."

The coach was only 7-8 years old?????

26 Year Gap Thu Feb 08, 2007 09:17pm

I had one the other night. Fouls 6-0 in favor of V. 3 minutes left in half before 1st home foul. V: Broke press easily and scored all of their points on lay-ups that were not contested. H: had the ball for 80% of the time and worked the ball around until finding a lane to drive to the hoop. V coach: Oblivious to the above.

Nevadaref Thu Feb 08, 2007 09:34pm

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Originally Posted by K-Bach
Two nights ago, during a timeout...

Coach finishes with his players and turns in my direction. "The fouls are 8 to 2."

From my spot on the floor, I look up to the scoreboard and wait until the 15 second horn (about 10 seconds). <strike>"Yes, I believe you're right."</strike>

"Dave, we have a math major on the sideline."


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