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JRutledge Sun Feb 04, 2007 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
When I work girls games, I get many more coaches who want every bit of contact called as a foul and typically coach behavior is unpredictable and more likely to result in me having to take care of business than when I work boys games.

This is the reason I stopped doing Girl's games. I would literally see a girl player just standing still and the ball handler would run into them and fall to the floor and they automatically want a foul. Then when you would say to them in a calm voice about the defender was in LGP and that would do nothing but set them off and before you know it the game goes to hell in a hand basket.

The very same thing would happen on the boy's side and the coaches would be yelling at their player for making such a stupid play. Then if you called a foul just because of some contact, Boy's coaches tend complain about letting them play.

All I can say is this past week I watched most of the game on ESPN HS game between Loyola Academy (IL) and North Central HS (IN) and you cannot tell me that an officials that is used working a lot of girls game can handle that game without some major adjustment.


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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
If someone more politically correct wishes to put a better spin on it, go right ahead. But officials shouldn't feel forced to work girls ball just cause they want and like working boys ball.

I agree, this should be a personal choice.

Peace

Mountaineer Sun Feb 04, 2007 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by archangel
and if a high school AD said it, it must be true!!

Almost as reliable as the internet . . .:rolleyes:

JoeT Sun Feb 04, 2007 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by PIAA REF
the whole title IX crap...

Care to explain that?

zebraman Sun Feb 04, 2007 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree, this should be a personal choice.

Peace

Agreed.

I ref boys games because I love the intensity and challenge of it.

I ref girls games because they need good officials too. I have several friends who have daughters and they appreciate it.

I ref boys games differently than girls games. It isn't that hard to do.

The adjustment is not any more difficult than the adjustment needed between a high-level talented boys game and a lower-level boys game with mediocre players.

Chess Ref Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:45pm

Not so much
 
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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
Here's a politically incorrect take on it:

It takes a better official to work HS boys varsity than it does girls.....in every state I've lived. The ball is faster, the players are more athletic, and you have to employ advantage/disadvantage with a far keener eye in boys games. When I work girls games, I get many more coaches who want every bit of contact called as a foul and typically coach behavior is unpredictable and more likely to result in me having to take care of business than when I work boys games.

If someone more politically correct wishes to put a better spin on it, go right ahead. But officials shouldn't feel forced to work girls ball just cause they want and like working boys ball.

Well I live in the land of political correctness and well I never consider the truth to be politically incorrect. Between your post and Jrut's post a light bulb came on for me. People shouldn't be forced to work games they don't want to and it's all good. For myself I hope to someday be able to be like the zebraman and ref girls because they deserve good officials too. Not ref them because that is all I am qualified to do......


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