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[j51969]

Rule 9-1-10 The restrictions in Articles 6 through 9 apply until the ball touches the ring or backboard or until the free throw ends. So everyone can enter the lane. However, if the ball doesn't touch ring at some point on the try by the shooter it's a violation.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by deecee

technically the rule says rim -- but use some judgement here please

Howintheheck could you ever use any kind of judgement on a call like this? There's absolutely NO judgement involved. The ball either hits the ring or it doesn't. It's like a player with the ball stepping on a boundary line. They either step on the line or they don't step on the line.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Howintheheck could you ever use any kind of judgement on a call like this? There's absolutely NO judgement involved. The ball either hits the ring or it doesn't. It's like a player with the ball stepping on a boundary line. They either step on the line or they don't step on the line.

I concur, no rim, we have a violation. I think we may have some street ball rules going on here!!!!!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Howintheheck could you ever use any kind of judgement on a call like this? There's absolutely NO judgement involved. The ball either hits the ring or it doesn't. It's like a player with the ball stepping on a boundary line. They either step on the line or they don't step on the line.

The same way that he fails to enforce the coaching box, if the coach is just coaching.

BTW, deecee did you see that latest memo from the NCAA on the enforcement of the coaching box?

[deecee]

you mean to tell me you can tell some of those close grazes in 2 man -- with lot of banging in the paint -- sometimes the ball hitting the rim is NOT so obvious -- nice that you can read the rule book -- talk about real world applications where the ball doesnt always hit the rim obviously and bounce sideways after it does...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Once the ball hits the backboard...is it OK for the players along the lane to move into the lane...or do they have to wait for the ball to hit the rim?
(learning tool)

The players can move in when the ball hits the backboard or the rim. The FT is "illegal" if it hits only the backboard (and doesn't enter the basket).

[j51969]

Originally Posted by deecee

you mean to tell me you can tell some of those close grazes in 2 man -- with lot of banging in the paint -- sometimes the ball hitting the rim is NOT so obvious -- nice that you can read the rule book -- talk about real world applications where the ball doesnt always hit the rim obviously and bounce sideways after it does...

I don't understand. Either you see it or you don't. how does that change the way you apply the rule. If you think it graze the rim you don't call it. If you don't you call it. Under what circumstances would it not hit and you would let it go?

[deecee]

and that is where your judgement comes in -- you must judge whether it hit the rim or not in those instances. It is 99% of the time black and white but once or twice a year it gets gray -- this also happens on free throws.
I am not saying to let it go on a non hit -- I am saying that the actual contact at times is up to your judgment. and in the other thread with the SEC official getting in trouble thats what it came down to and it was a big call/no-call when it happened. thats all