got the stop sign last night

[Jway44]

Originally Posted by biz

So I said, "We appreciate the warning and we're trying to help you out and get him out of the game, so why not just let us make the sub right now?" .

OK, 2 things here. The stop sign is kind of funny, but in all reality it sounds as if you were given the stop sign because you are an assistant coach. Assistants are bench personnel and have no reason to speak to the official. Any questions or comments should come from the head coach only. So, as comical as the stop sign was since your team was obviously trying to get the player with the attitude problem out of the game, you, as an assistant, should not have had any comment on the matter at all. In my opinion the stop sign was your warning before you as bench personell recieved a technical. Remember the quote posted here a few weeks ago: "Sorry Robin, we only talk to Batman". That is probably why the stop sign came out.

[Junker]

Since we're on the subject of assistants... Last night in our boys game, I went over to answer a question from the visiting HC. The assistant started to say something in complaint, realized what he was doing, and put a finger to his lips shushing himself. I thought it was pretty funny but I did appreciate it.

[Jway44]

Yeah, we had one last night in a tight game that wanted to spout off a little bit during a TO. I patiently waited for the huddle to break, and then walked right to the HC (who was standing beside his pouting assistant) and reminded him to "either take control of his bench personnel, or we would be forced to do so." He politely said "Yes sir", and all was well for the rest of the game.

[Junker]

I think I have to tell the HC that he will be the only one talking at least once a week. You'd think by this time of year the assistants would get the point.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Jway44

OK, 2 things here. The stop sign is kind of funny, but in all reality it sounds as if you were given the stop sign because you are an assistant coach. Assistants are bench personnel and have no reason to speak to the official. Any questions or comments should come from the head coach only. So, as comical as the stop sign was since your team was obviously trying to get the player with the attitude problem out of the game, you, as an assistant, should not have had any comment on the matter at all. In my opinion the stop sign was your warning before you as bench personell recieved a technical. Remember the quote posted here a few weeks ago: "Sorry Robin, we only talk to Batman". That is probably why the stop sign came out.

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis."

This assistant coach was attempting to help defuse a bad situation, and for the ref to pull out the big stop sign at that point is ridiculous.

[Jway44]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis."

This assistant coach was attempting to help defuse a bad situation, and for the ref to pull out the big stop sign at that point is ridiculous.

So are you going to let Johnny sitting at the end of the bench make the same comment? Bench personnel is bench personnel. There is no difference between a bench player and an assistant coach. If anything needs to be said, let the HC handle it. I think that in that situation, the sub probably should have been let in just to help difuse the situation, but either way, the assistant coach should just be quiet.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Jway44

So are you going to let Johnny sitting at the end of the bench make the same comment? Bench personnel is bench personnel. There is no difference between a bench player and an assistant coach. If anything needs to be said, let the HC handle it. I think that in that situation, the sub probably should have been let in just to help difuse the situation, but either way, the assistant coach should just be quiet.

If the "bench personnel" are trying to help defuse the situation, I'm sure not going to get on the old high horse and hit them with the Stop sign...

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

If the "bench personnel" are trying to help defuse the situation, I'm sure not going to get on the old high horse and hit them with the Stop sign...

You've got to have an alternate plan, DJ, you CAN'T get on the old high horse.

Okay, seriously, I can see your point. So what do you do? Answer the question of why not? Ignore the Asst? What?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You've got to have an alternate plan, DJ, you CAN'T get on the old high horse.

Okay, seriously, I can see your point. So what do you do? Answer the question of why not? Ignore the Asst? What?

I don't get it...

I will more than likely let the sub come in and get the little problem-child off the court...I really have no problem talking with assistant coaches in a situation like this one...now if that assistant is chirping, arguing, helping me ref, etc, that's a different story...but the stop sign in this situation was - as I said before - ridiculous.

[tomegun]

A perfect illustration of why I don't care for the stop sign. It seems as though this assistant was trying to help the situation. What if it was an irate coach instead of a player? If the assistant was trying to calm the coach down and told you so would you give him the almighty stop sign? BTW, I haven't reported it lately, but I got my stop sign down to .347 seconds and pulled a muscle. I've been given muscle relaxers and was told to refrain from using the stop sign for the rest of the season. My stop sign will be ready for summer leagues though.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by tomegun

A perfect illustration of why I don't care for the stop sign. It seems as though this assistant was trying to help the situation. What if it was an irate coach instead of a player? If the assistant was trying to calm the coach down and told you so would you give him the almighty stop sign? BTW, I haven't reported it lately, but I got my stop sign down to .347 seconds and pulled a muscle. I've been given muscle relaxers and was told to refrain from using the stop sign for the rest of the season. My stop sign will be ready for summer leagues though.

A stop sign in summer leagues? When we're not getting paid full price? I just use the T sign.

[Jway44]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

If the "bench personnel" are trying to help defuse the situation, I'm sure not going to get on the old high horse and hit them with the Stop sign...

In that situation, the stop sign was not necessary. But the only reason that I could figure that he gave one was because it was the assistant that was doing the talking.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis."

Here's to Rockyroad, our new "Big Toe!"

[Ignats75]

I'm about as anti ***'t Coaches as anyone. The only think I ever want to hear from them is "No NO it was a good call" to the head coach.

But IMHO, this is waaay over the top in heavy-handedness.

[biz]

I agree that the stop sign was probably because I was the assistant and it probably didn't help that the HC was already sitting on a T from earlier, but as I've said before coaches are people just like officials. Talk to the assistant coach in this case or as I said in the OP tell the HC you don't want to hear from the AC, but the stop sign is childish.

That being said...when I'm officiating I don't mind responding (especially in this case during, a dead ball, in close proximity, not yelling) to an assistant's respectful question or request.

BTW...HC in this case after the game said to me that he enjoyed coaching from his seat and he might try it the rest of the season