Don't talk to my player

[Dan_ref]

First, get him off the court - "coach, I can't have you on the floor, you know that".

Then get him to stop yelling - "Coach, I'm going to talk to you man to man, there's no need for you to yell at me."

Then find out what his question is - "Coach, is there a question you have for me?"

He'll probably say "Yeah, why are you talking to my player?"

Then you answer "Because it's part of my job here" and walk away.

If he yells or follows you then T him.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

First, get him off the court - "coach, I can't have you on the floor, you know that".

Then get him to stop yelling - "Coach, I'm going to talk to you man to man, there's no need for you to yell at me."

Then find out what his question is - "Coach, is there a question you have for me?"

He'll probably say "Yeah, why are you talking to my player?"

Then you answer "Because it's part of my job here" and walk away.

If he yells or follows you then T him.

Dan:

Great post, I could not have said it any better myself.

MTD, Sr.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Dan:

Great post, I could not have said it any better myself.

MTD, Sr.

Geeze Mark, I'm honored...although I'm sure you would have found a way to say it using at least 500 more words

Anyway, I'm going to light a candle for you at my J Dallas Shirley temple.

[Jay R]

I had a similar situation not long ago. I called a player for palming the ball twice in the first 4 or 5 minutes of game. While standing in front of the coach during a dead ball, I asked the coach if this was normally a problem for this kid to palm the ball. The coach's response was: "You referee and I'll coach". I didn't expect that response since there had been no problems up to this point. I said: "Understood". I figured there is no point in complaining about his response although I felt it was unwarranted. I just figured if he came looking to talk about something later in the game, there wasn't going to be a lot of dialogue from me.

[SMEngmann]

Originally Posted by Jay R

I had a similar situation not long ago. I called a player for palming the ball twice in the first 4 or 5 minutes of game. While standing in front of the coach during a dead ball, I asked the coach if this was normally a problem for this kid to palm the ball. The coach's response was: "You referee and I'll coach". I didn't expect that response since there had been no problems up to this point. I said: "Understood". I figured there is no point in complaining about his response although I felt it was unwarranted. I just figured if he came looking to talk about something later in the game, there wasn't going to be a lot of dialogue from me.

As an official who also coaches, I think that was an appropriate response from the coach. If he's palming the ball, call the palm, and if someone asks you a question, answer it, but there is no need to make small talk with the coach or a player about basketball skills. It does not concern us as officials if a player is having problems doing anything basketball related, as long as we make the necessary observations and are aware of it. Bottom line: we're paid to referee and not to coach, at any level, and as a coach I might resent that comment because it can be interpreted as a swipe at his coaching ability. The coach's response was terse, but it was correct, this is how we get ourselves into trouble.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SMEngmann

As an official who also coaches, I think that was an appropriate response from the coach. If he's palming the ball, call the palm, and if someone asks you a question, answer it, but there is no need to make small talk with the coach or a player about basketball skills. It does not concern us as officials if a player is having problems doing anything basketball related, as long as we make the necessary observations and are aware of it. Bottom line: we're paid to referee and not to coach, at any level, and as a coach I might resent that comment because it can be interpreted as a swipe at his coaching ability. The coach's response was terse, but it was correct, this is how we get ourselves into trouble.

That's basically my take too. Good post imo.

[JRutledge]

The only time in my opinion you come to a coach about what may have been called is when you need to let a coach know of a potential problem with a player as it relates to sportsmanship issue (and you have to be careful there as well). Other than that leave the coach alone and let him/her ask you about a call. If they do not ask, they probably saw what you saw or know why it was called.

Peace

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Jay R

I had a similar situation not long ago. I called a player for palming the ball twice in the first 4 or 5 minutes of game. While standing in front of the coach during a dead ball, I asked the coach if this was normally a problem for this kid to palm the ball. The coach's response was: "You referee and I'll coach". I didn't expect that response since there had been no problems up to this point. I said: "Understood". I figured there is no point in complaining about his response although I felt it was unwarranted. I just figured if he came looking to talk about something later in the game, there wasn't going to be a lot of dialogue from me.

I'll bet what happened at some point (or more than once) in his coaching career, some referee said to him, "You coach and I'll referee." He's just been waiting to turn that around. As for discussing the call, if the coach doesn't want to talk about a call against his team, I'm not going to bring it up either.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Geeze Mark, I'm honored...although I'm sure you would have found a way to say it using at least 500 more words

And I'm sure you would have used much more "colorful" language!

I agree with Dan. Walk the coach back to the bench, let him say his piece. At the point he stops or asks you a question, tell him, "Coach, I told both players to knock it off and play ball. It's part of officiating. If you don't want me talking to your players, that's fine. I'll just hit him with the foul or the T next time." Turn and walk away. If he chases you, pop him.

But do not allow a coach to come onto the floor to confront you.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

And I'm sure you would have used much more "colorful" language!

I agree with Dan. Walk the coach back to the bench, let him say his piece. At the point he stops or asks you a question, tell him, "Coach, I told both players to knock it off and play ball. It's part of officiating. If you don't want me talking to your players, that's fine. I'll just hit him with the foul or the T next time." Turn and walk away. If he chases you, pop him.

But do not allow a coach to come onto the floor to confront you.

Tony:

Please PM to tell me how to do the colorful printing like that. Daryl "The Preacher" Long is always telling me how colorful my language is. LOL

MTD, Sr.

[Ref Daddy]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

First, get him off the court - "coach, I can't have you on the floor, you know that".

Then get him to stop yelling - "Coach, I'm going to talk to you man to man, there's no need for you to yell at me."

Then find out what his question is - "Coach, is there a question you have for me?"

He'll probably say "Yeah, why are you talking to my player?"

Then you answer "Because it's part of my job here" and walk away.

If he yells or follows you then T him.

Excellent. Thats a good call!