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M&M Guy Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
OK, I think we're moving towards some agreement here...does anybody have a problem with this:

If a player loses both his shoes while playing basketball in a stairwell then we should stop the game at the first opportunity.

Hands for yes...??

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Scrapper1 Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:21pm

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Originally Posted by mick
I am not inclined to pontificate what the members of this forum should do or should not do,

You should pontificate. ;)

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:23pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
I will continue to maintain that moving at any rate of speed in socks can be dangerous.

I don't think anybody is debating that point. But surely the player has the option NOT to continue moving and simply put his/her shoe back on? Why should we disadvantage the other team in order to allow that player to remedy a problem of his own making?

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by crappyadvice1
You should pontificate.

Nuh-huh.

He'll go blind!:eek:

deecee Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:59pm

dan for the first time one of your posts made me laff -- here's a cookie

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Eastshire Fri Jan 19, 2007 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I don't think anybody is debating that point. But surely the player has the option NOT to continue moving and simply put his/her shoe back on? Why should we disadvantage the other team in order to allow that player to remedy a problem of his own making?

Of his own making? That is not always the case. I may not remember it correctly but I thought in the KU-Mizzou game the KU player lost his shoe due to it being stepped on. Players can lose shoes through no fault of their own.

Ask your self this: why should we allow a disadvatage to a team not contemplated by the rules because a player was unfortunate enough to lose a shoe?

deecee Fri Jan 19, 2007 02:57pm

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why should we allow a disadvatage to a team not contemplated by the rules because a player was unfortunate enough to lose a shoe?
teach character?

what...the suspence is killing me

JRutledge Fri Jan 19, 2007 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
Of his own making? That is not always the case. I may not remember it correctly but I thought in the KU-Mizzou game the KU player lost his shoe due to it being stepped on. Players can lose shoes through no fault of their own.

He lost his shoe going to the basket and came in contact with a defender as they all fell to the floor. I have no idea why he lost his shoe (they did not shoe a replay for why) I just know he lost his shoe.

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
Ask your self this: why should we allow a disadvatage to a team not contemplated by the rules because a player was unfortunate enough to lose a shoe?

Because there are no rules that say we should stop play for this. You keep talking about what you think, but you have shown absolutely no rule the back up your claim the game must be stopped. I am sure the NF considered this at some point but did not think it fit what they wanted. I am sure a shoe coming off is not anything new in the last year. I have seen this happen many times but there is no rule that supports stopping the clock. I guess if a defender gets faked out of their shoes (I have seen this happen) and the dribbler is going to the basket, we should stop the clock immediately because it is a safety issue.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 19, 2007 04:19pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
Ask your self this: why should we allow a disadvatage to a team not contemplated by the rules because a player was unfortunate enough to lose a shoe?

Self, what do you think of that statement?

Self sez:<i>"If there truly was a disadvantage, rules would have already been enacted to end the disadvantage."</i>

deecee Fri Jan 19, 2007 05:02pm

i still cant get over Dan's comment -- actually very funny -- i think it deserves its own thread :o

i mean 5 pages of discussion and thats what it came down to -- lost shoes in a stairwell -- i am still @#$^$^#$ laughing

thanks Dan i forgive your past indiscretions

bob jenkins Fri Jan 19, 2007 08:41pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
Sure, but they're not going to do that. They are going to run back on defense, slip, crack their noggin, and watch their attorny sue you for more money than exists in all the heavens and the earth.

Maybe helmets should be required equipment.

Or, maybe it's not as much of a problem as you seem to think.

mj Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Maybe helmets should be required equipment.

Or, maybe it's not as much of a problem as you seem to think.

Ding, ding...we have a winnner!!


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