Is this a successive time-out?

[HawkeyeCubP]

Following the expiration of time for the first extra period and the score tied, the coach of Team B is charged with a technical foul. Team B requests a time-out before the free throws are administered to start the second extra period. Thereafter, the official administers the first free throw to A1. Following the attempt, (a) Team B or (b) Team A, then requests a time-out.

RULING?

[cmathews]

the ball became live for the throw

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Following the expiration of time for the first extra period and the score tied, the coach of Team B is charged with a technical foul. Team B requests a time-out before the free throws are administered to start the second extra period. Thereafter, the official administers the first free throw to A1. Following the attempt, (a) Team B or (b) Team A, then requests a time-out.

RULING?

Hey! I think I may know this one!!! Nail me if I don't!

No 2nd time out allowed...(I believe...!) I don't think you are allowed successive T.O's in overtime. No book handy for a rule ref, though.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Hey! I think I may know this one!!! Nail me if I don't!

No 2nd time out allowed...(I believe...!) I don't think you are allowed successive T.O's in overtime. No book handy for a rule ref, though.

Not allowed after time expires for the preceding period and before the OT begins. But, the OT begins on the FT. Timeout should be allowed.

[HawkeyeCubP]

CoachP - CMat and Camron are correct, I believe. By the rule, the extra period has begun when the ball becomes live (at the disposal of the free thrower) for the first techincal foul free throw, therefore, allow the time-out, as it's not violating 5-12-3.

Just thought it was an interesting question.

[lorenj]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Following the expiration of time for the first extra period and the score tied, the coach of Team B is charged with a technical foul. Team B requests a time-out before the free throws are administered to start the second extra period. Thereafter, the official administers the first free throw to A1. Following the attempt, (a) Team B or (b) Team A, then requests a time-out.

RULING?

The second time-out request should be denied in both a and b. Rule 4-43-2 states that a successive time-out is "one which is granted to either team before the clock has started following the previous time-out." Since the clock hasn't been started yet, the second time-out would be successive and should not be allowed.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by lorenj

The second time-out request should be denied in both a and b. Rule 4-43-2 states that a successive time-out is "one which is granted to either team before the clock has started following the previous time-out." Since the clock hasn't been started yet, the second time-out would be successive and should not be allowed.

Hmmmmmmmm...

[lorenj]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Hmmmmmmmm...

This is 5.12.3 Situation B in the casebook. Whether or not the ball became live between the two requests has no bearing on the ruling.

[cmathews]

I stand corrected....

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by lorenj

This is 5.12.3 Situation B in the casebook. Whether or not the ball became live between the two requests has no bearing on the ruling.

Thanks LorenJ.