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kycat1 Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:07pm

What the heck do you call????
 
:confused: You make the call (this actually happened in a state tournament game)!

Team A down by 1 point with 5 seconds in the game. Both teams in the bonus. OOB throw end on sideline in A’s backcourt after time out. A1 throws to A2 who is confused and dribbles to the wrong basket and puts up a shot that hits the backboard and then rebounds off of the rim. A2 then jumps up, grabs the rebound and starts to shoot the ball again at the wrong basket.
B1, thinking A2 is about to score, jumps up to block the shot and fouls A2 after the ball leaves A2 hands but before the horn goes off to end the game. Then the ball goes through the basket after the horn.
Yes, all of this happened within the last 5 seconds of the game. Both coaches, all players and all fans are screaming excitedly.
What do you call? :confused:
You have just a few seconds to get your crew together and decide. No rule books on the floor.
I'll post the crews correct decision next Monday!:D

jcarter Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:13pm

Ill take a stab,

Basket counts towords B score, then go and A is shooting for the bounus 1 and 1 or 2 depending on if they were in bounus or double bonus.


That is my guess, but i will look it up when i get home.

Adam Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:15pm

It's easy. No need to wait until Monday. Since the last shot was not a legitimate shot attempt (at the wrong basket), the ball becomes dead at the horn. B does not get the points for the shot.
A2 gets bonus free throws at the other end.

This year, if one of the officials sees time on the clock at the whistle, then you can count the basket and put that time back on. A2 still gets bonus free throws at the other end.

Raymond Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:18pm

It's definitely no basket.

2 things preventing the basket from counting.
  • The foul
  • The horn

This is basic rules knowlege. This was not a shot attempt so the horn and/or foul make the ball dead.

Adam Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:19pm

Doh! I forgot about the foul making the ball dead. So, while you might be able to put time back on, you cannot count this basket. Doh!

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kycat1
Team A down by 1 point with 5 seconds in the game. Both teams in the bonus.
A1 throws to A2 who is confused and dribbles to the wrong basket and puts up a shot that hits the backboard and then rebounds off of the rim. A2 then jumps up, grabs the rebound and starts to shoot the ball again at the wrong basket.
B1, thinking A2 is about to score, jumps up to block the shot and fouls A2 after the ball leaves A2 hands but before the horn goes off to end the game. Then the ball goes through the basket after the horn.


No basket because it's not a "try". A2 shoots either 1/1 or 2 shots, depending on <b>what</b> bonus they are in(we aren't told). If A2 makes 1 FT, the game goes to OT. If A2 makes 2 FT's, the game is over. Case book play 4.41.2.

budjones05 Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Doh! I forgot about the foul making the ball dead. So, while you might be able to put time back on, you cannot count this basket. Doh!

You can only put time on if you know how much has elaspe

FishinRef Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:29pm

I agree with Snaq & Jurassic.

No basket for Team B - A's shot was not a legitimate shot attempt.
Ball is dead immediately after the foul.
Team A will shoot 1/1 or 2 depending on the foul count.
Clock may be reset if officials had definite knowledge of the exact time when the foul was called.

Adam Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by budjones05
You can only put time on if you know how much has elaspe

Which is what I said on my first post. ;)

Dan_ref Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:41pm

kycat1, ya better bring your A game when you try to get one by this crew!

:D

kycat1 Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:42pm

All good answers, but none correct yet!:D

Raymond Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kycat1
All good answers, but none correct yet!:D

Oh, they were correct, they just might not match what the crew in question did.

FrankHtown Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:46pm

Ok...she dribbled, took a shot at the opponent's basket, then got the rebound. Something in the back of my mind says that's a double dribble.

mick Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kycat1
:confused: You make the call (this actually happened in a state tournament game)!

... A2 who is confused and dribbles to the wrong basket and puts up a shot that hits the backboard and then rebounds off of the rim. A2 then jumps up, grabs the rebound and starts to shoot the ball again at the wrong basket.

Violation - Dribble rule 9.5 Situation

Jesse James Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:47pm

Absence of material fact
 
It's over and back if A caught the ball in their frontcourt, and proceeded to dribble towards B's hoop. But I really hope you just didn't omit that part of the story. Otherwise, I agree with what's previously been posted.


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