Over and Back - Please help on this hard to find rule

[justjames]

Can you tell me where I can find this rule?

Thank!

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by justjames

Can you tell me where I can find this rule?

Thank!

page 37 of the rules book!

[Rusty Gilbert]

lorenj cited National Federation of High Schools basketball rule 4-35-3, which reads:

The location of an airborne player with reference to the three factors of Article 1 is the same as at the time such player was last in contact with the floor or an extension of the floor, such as a bleacher.

The Article 1 reference (4-35-1) reads:

The location of a player or nonplayer is determined by where the player is touching the floor as far as being:
a. Inbounds or out of bounds.
b. In the frontcourt or backcourt.
c. Outside (behind/beyond) or inside the three-point field-goal line.

[Johnny Ringo]

What about the opposite: A1 in the BC and passes towards FC where A2 (who had FC status) catches ball in the air and lands with one foot on the division line and the other in FC ...

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What about the opposite: A1 in the BC and passes towards FC where A2 (who had FC status) catches ball in the air and lands with one foot on the division line and the other in FC ...

Johnny,
Does Team A have team control?
What status (fc or bc) did A2 have when he jumped?
So what status does the ball have once he touches it?
Is the division line in the fc or the bc?
When A2 lands and touches the division line, what status does he and thus the ball now have?

Now answer your own question. Do you have a violation here?

[drinkeii]

Isn't this one of the exceptions to the backcourt violation - written for inbounds passes? I can't remember the rule reference - but I do remember there are specific exceptions, and I thought that situation was one of them.

Originally Posted by Rusty Gilbert

lorenj cited National Federation of High Schools basketball rule 4-35-3, which reads:

The location of an airborne player with reference to the three factors of Article 1 is the same as at the time such player was last in contact with the floor or an extension of the floor, such as a bleacher.

The Article 1 reference (4-35-1) reads:

The location of a player or nonplayer is determined by where the player is touching the floor as far as being:
a. Inbounds or out of bounds.
b. In the frontcourt or backcourt.
c. Outside (behind/beyond) or inside the three-point field-goal line.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by drinkeii

Isn't this one of the exceptions to the backcourt violation - written for inbounds passes? I can't remember the rule reference - but I do remember there are specific exceptions, and I thought that situation was one of them.

The exceptions only apply to throw-ins, jump balls and defensive steals, Iow, they're not relevant to the situation being discussed above.

[drinkeii]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The exceptions only apply to throw-ins, jump balls and defensive steals, Iow, they're not relevant to the situation being discussed above.

Ah ok - I was reading it as a throw-in, which, upon rereading, it was not. This is simply a player with the ball in the frontcourt passing a ball to a player who has jumped out of the backcourt, but has not landed in the frontcourt yet. Of course - violation.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by drinkeii

Isn't this one of the exceptions to the backcourt violation - written for inbounds passes? I can't remember the rule reference - but I do remember there are specific exceptions, and I thought that situation was one of them.

9-9-3
Exceptions occur when there is no team control.
Jump ball, throw-in and defensive player (intercepting pass).
Exception only applys to the player catching the ball while both feet are not touching the floor.
I include this Rule in all my pregame discussion.