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SamIAm Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:49am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
Well, it's true. I am a writer and have a journalism degree from Iowa State University. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes.

He pointed out only one mistake.

WhistlesAndStripes Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:36am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
:D

Main Entry: per·son·al·ly http://www.m-w.com/images/audio.gif
Pronunciation: <TT>'p&rs-n&-lE, 'p&r-s&-n&-</TT>
Function: adverb
1 : in person [attend to the matter personally]
2 : as a person : in personality [personally attractive but not very trustworthy]
3 : for oneself : as far as oneself is concerned [personally, I don't want to go]
4 : in a personal manner [don't take this personally]

personal

adjective
1. concerning or affecting a particular person or his or her private life and personality; "a personal favor"; "for your personal use"; "personal papers"; "I have something personal to tell you"; "a personal God"; "he has his personal bank account and she has hers" [ant: impersonal]
2. particular to a given individual
3. of or arising from personality; "personal magnetism"
4. intimately concerning a person's body or physical being; "personal hygiene"
5. indicating grammatical person; "personal verb endings"

Looks like my usage was just fine.

Nevadaref Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
adjective
...
Looks like my usage was just fine.

No, you used the word as an adverb. It explained how you did not want him to take your comment. Thus you needed an "ly" at the end. I even included the example sentence from the dictionary for you, which is nearly identical to what you wrote.

But don't believe me, we can wait for rainmaker to show up and tell you the same thing. :D

Junker Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Good Lord! How many former Ames residends post on this board, anyway?

You can never have too many well educated Iowa State folks around. Part of the reason may be the great IM staff at ISU that trains officials. I didn't work with them while in college, but they were a tremendous help to me later when I was talked into officiating. As for the OP, I'd ignore this situation. They aren't gaining anything or really delaying the game by kicking the ball. Besides, if they don't catch the kicked ball it hurts the team going to offense by allowing the defense time to set up. The only time I can see warning for this action would have been if B was trying to waste time to preserve a lead.

HawkeyeCubP Mon Jan 08, 2007 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
Just as B1 goes to reach for the ball A1 kicks the ball very hard and it sails OOB towards B's basket.

Of course I call a ....... wait... here it comes....gee, I forget if I called a 'kicked ball' or a 'b/c violation'.

I like the backcourt violation on this one. Touching precedes kicking.:D

Nevadaref Mon Jan 08, 2007 02:06pm

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1. A violation cannot be committed during a dead ball.
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Originally Posted by Old School
Not so sure I agree with this. The ball may be dead but the clock is still running after a made basket.

Determining if the ball is live or dead has nothing whatsoever to do with the clock running or being stopped.
Note that the clock is stopped while players attempt FTs, but the ball is certainly live otherwise no points could be scored. :eek:
Now you wouldn't allow a player to drop kick the ball through the basket during a FT on the premise that it has to be legal because the clock is stopped, right?

BTW what violation do you think could be committed during a dead ball? :confused:

bob jenkins Mon Jan 08, 2007 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
BTW what violation do you think could be committed during a dead ball? :confused:

Swinging elbows?

Mark Dexter Mon Jan 08, 2007 08:24pm

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP
I like the backcourt violation on this one. Touching precedes kicking.:D

What is this, the football board?

HawkeyeCubP Mon Jan 08, 2007 08:31pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
What is this, the football board?

Nah, but I mentioned this before when we were discussing the whole semantics of the kicking violation vs. holding the ball with the legs.:)

Nevadaref Mon Jan 08, 2007 08:36pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Swinging elbows?

I thought about that Bob, and I wouldn't make that call.
The language of the penalty implies that this action happens while the ball is live.
PENALTY: (Section 13) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d)

Heck, if the player made unintentional contact with an opponent during a dead ball, we can't even call a common foul against him. It wouldn't make sense to allow for a violation to be called during this same time.

Johnny Ringo Tue Jan 09, 2007 02:25pm

SamIam ... I said mistakes because he has done this in other posts. I think that poster may be an English teacher nad is obsessed with "grading papers."

Stan Tue Jan 09, 2007 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Good Lord! How many former Ames residends post on this board, anyway?

Count me in! Graduating class of 1980.

mbyron Tue Jan 09, 2007 08:10pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Good Lord! How many former Ames residends post on this board, anyway?

I believe that's spelled 'inmates'.

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Jan 09, 2007 08:13pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
SamIam ... I said mistakes because he has done this in other posts. I think that poster may be an English teacher nad is obsessed with "grading papers."

a-n-d

Not an english teacher either. But I was a 6th grade spelling bee champion.

M&M Guy Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:01pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
a-n-d

Not an english teacher either. But I was a 6th grade spelling bee champion.

Was that the word that got you into the quarterfinals?


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