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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 06:20pm
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Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?
Where's the one that states that you don't?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 07:53pm
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Where's the one that states that you don't?
NFHS rule 6.7. That rule states very explicitly when the clock should be stopped. If the FED had wanted to stop play for nets hung up, they sureasheck would have put it in 6-7 so that all of us knew and followed a standard procedure. It ain't in there, is it?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 08:33pm
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NFHS rule 6.7. That rule states very explicitly when the clock should be stopped. If the FED had wanted to stop play for nets hung up, they sureasheck would have put it in 6-7 so that all of us knew and followed a standard procedure. It ain't in there, is it?
If you really want to be that stubborn, assume that a circuit breaker for the lights trips but the scoreboard is still on. Are you suggesting that play should continue in the dark since nothing in 6-7 says to stop the clock if the lights go out?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 09:10pm
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If you really want to be that stubborn, assume that a circuit breaker for the lights trips but the scoreboard is still on. Are you suggesting that play should continue in the dark since nothing in 6-7 says to stop the clock if the lights go out?
I supplied a rule. Have you got a rules citation saying something different?

If the FED wanted officials to stop play every time a net hung up, it would be listed to do so in rule 6-7. It isn't.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2007, 03:58am
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I supplied a rule. Have you got a rules citation saying something different?
I did. You chose to ignore it.
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If the FED wanted officials to stop play every time a net hung up, it would be listed to do so in rule 6-7. It isn't.
So, your saying you'll keep playing under any condition that is not explicity listed in 6-7 such as:
  • ball develops a leak and goes flat
  • net get stuck across the rim (and you see a ball bounce off of it)
  • backboard padding becomes dislodged and falls to the floor under the basket
  • the rim breaks
  • the backboard breaks
  • Debris on the court,
  • water on the court
  • lights outf
  • ire in the bleachers
  • etc.
all since you have no explicit rule that tell you to stop the game.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2007, 08:11am
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I did. You chose to ignore it.

Um, no, I certainly did respond to your citation of rule 1-10-1. For some unknown reason you're ignoring my response. I'm still waiting for you to respond to my question.

Again, using your logic, are you going to stop the game every time the net is hit by a player so that it is no longer suspended vertically 15-18" below the ring? And if not, why not? Don't you believe in the rule being applied equitably and consistently the entire game? Iow, do you advocate calling the rule only some of the time, not all of the time?

Btw, I'm sure if the FED hadda agreed with your interpretation of 1-10-1, it woulda found it's way into R6-7.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2007, 08:32am
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Um, no, I certainly did respond to your citation of rule 1-10-1. For some unknown reason you're ignoring my response. I'm still waiting for you to respond to my question.

Again, using your logic, are you going to stop the game every time the net is hit by a player so that it is no longer suspended vertically 15-18" below the ring? And if not, why not? Don't you believe in the rule being applied equitably and consistently the entire game? Iow, do you advocate calling the rule only some of the time, not all of the time?

Btw, I'm sure if the FED hadda agreed with your interpretation of 1-10-1, it woulda found it's way into R6-7.
Actually, if this was earth-shakingly important enough to argue about (again) for four pages, it would be in the book.
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Old Sun Jan 07, 2007, 02:37pm
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Again, using your logic, are you going to stop the game every time the net is hit by a player so that it is no longer suspended vertically 15-18" below the ring? And if not, why not? Don't you believe in the rule being applied equitably and consistently the entire game? Iow, do you advocate calling the rule only some of the time, not all of the time?
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It doesn't say anything about "vertical". My contention is that if it is over the top of the ring, it is not beneath the ring. That is all.

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Btw, I'm sure if the FED hadda agreed with your interpretation of 1-10-1, it woulda found it's way into R6-7.
How can you be so sure? I seem to recall other cases where you and/or others were so sure that were later clarified to be the opposite. 6-7 is not an exhaustive list of reasons to stop the clock...just the common reasons.


Check out 7-8...
Timeout occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when and official:
Art. 2....Stops play:
d. For any other situations or an emergency.

There it is....a rule that gives me authority to stop the clock and fix the net.
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