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BktBallRef Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:08pm

He's not hiding.

Mregor Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:23pm

If you have a large bag with all the items you need to officiate, you pull out your can of starch and spray the net. If you don't, you never stop a running clock to fix the net.

Mregor

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 06, 2007 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by mplagrow
Not to be nosy, but are his reasons public knowledge? If so, why is he "in hiding?" Just curious.

Chuck started doing some NCAA D1 games this year. He didn't think that it would be a good idea to continue posting and maybe get involved in confrontations, flames, etc. It was his own personal choice. I can see his reasoning. You never know who is reading these forums or how they might react to some posts.

He is certainly missed.
http://www.1000smilies.com/tombstone.gif
<b>Chuck Elias</b>

On the bright side, it looks like he has been ably replaced by Old School and Scrappy1.

Camron Rust Sat Jan 06, 2007 03:23pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Rule and/or mechanics reference, please. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/redflag.gif

Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.

Scrapper1 Sat Jan 06, 2007 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.

This explanation strikes me as being, what someone recently called, overly ANALytical. JMHO

refnrev Sat Jan 06, 2007 04:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mregor
If you have a large bag with all the items you need to officiate, you pull out your can of starch and spray the net. If you don't, you never stop a running clock to fix the net.

Mregor

____________________________________

Hey TJ1,
Do you have a can of spray starch in your bag?:p I have a can of static guard but no spray starch!

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 06, 2007 04:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.

There's a lot of Nevada Ref in you, Camron.

And that ain't a good thing.....:D

refnrev Sat Jan 06, 2007 04:25pm

There does seem to be a growing resemblance doesn't there.

BktBallRef Sat Jan 06, 2007 06:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.

If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.

Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?

BktBallRef Sat Jan 06, 2007 06:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Chuck started doing some NCAA D1 games this year. He didn't think that it would be a good idea to continue posting and maybe get involved in confrontations, flames, etc. It was his own personal choice. I can see his reasoning. You never know who is reading these forums or how they might react to some posts.

He is certainly missed.
http://www.1000smilies.com/tombstone.gif
Chuck Elias

On the bright side, it looks like he has been ably replaced by Old School and Scrappy1.

Okay, the secret is out. ChuckElias now posts as Old School! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

Nevadaref Sat Jan 06, 2007 06:20pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?

Where's the one that states that you don't? :)

Camron Rust Sat Jan 06, 2007 07:18pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?

OK. So Player A1 dunks the ball cleanly and the breakaway rim doesn't return to level. Do you just keep playing with the rim at an angle? I don't know of any rule or case play that addresses it. The team should have a basket as specified in the rules at which to shot their shots....and that doesn't not include a basket that is partially obscured by a net over the top which is far more likely to negatively affect the shot than help it..

BktBallRef Sat Jan 06, 2007 07:26pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Where's the one that states that you don't? :)

So now there's supposed to be a list of rules that tell officials what not to do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust
OK. So Player A1 dunks the ball cleanly and the breakaway rim doesn't return to level. Do you just keep playing with the rim at an angle? I don't know of any rule or case play that addresses it. The team should have a basket as specified in the rules at which to shot their shots....and that doesn't not include a basket that is partially obscured by a net over the top which is far more likely to negatively affect the shot than help it..

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

I've never seen a rim not return to it's proper position after a dunk.
I've never seen a net prevent a ball from going through the basket.

Still waiting on that rule, case play, or interp?

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 06, 2007 07:53pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Where's the one that states that you don't? :)

NFHS rule 6.7. That rule states very explicitly when the clock should be stopped. If the FED had wanted to stop play for nets hung up, they sureasheck would have put it in 6-7 so that all of us knew and followed a standard procedure. It ain't in there, is it?

Nevadaref Sat Jan 06, 2007 07:54pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Still waiting on that rule, case play, or interp?

So am I. :D

But since neither one of us has one, my point is that there is just as much support for handling this in either fashion. The official must do what he believes is best at that particular time in that specific situation.


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