What would you do....

[rainmaker]

PY --

Don't worry too much about Tom. You'll get used to him. He can be a little too confrontive at times, but that's just his style. Sometimes his contributions can be really helpful. THe rest of us will be glad to argue with you ad infinitum without getting too personal, as long as you dont get too personal either.

Originally Posted by rainmaker

PY --

Don't worry too much about Tom. You'll get used to him. He can be a little too confrontive at times, but that's just his style. Sometimes his contributions can be really helpful. THe rest of us will be glad to argue with you ad infinitum without getting too personal, as long as you dont get too personal either.

Thanks (it's Juulie, right?) I won't get personal, but I won't shut up either!

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by PYRef

Thanks (it's Juulie, right?) I won't get personal, but I won't shut up either!

"Juulie" is correct. And if you can follow through (most of us lose it at one point or another in the don't-take-it-personally-department) and if you can admit it when you're wrong at least once in a while, you'll be a welcome addition to our little community of grouches! welcome to the board...

[MadCityRef]

If this was a high school game or lower and the coaches were ejected, how could the game continue with only players? If we toss the coaches the game is over because an adult associated with the school must take supervision of the players. And no, you do not put a parent on the bench; AD or Principal only.
If the team has no responsible adults and the game continues, anything that happens is now on the referees.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

If this was a high school game or lower and the coaches were ejected, how could the game continue with only players? If we toss the coaches the game is over because an adult associated with the school must take supervision of the players. And no, you do not put a parent on the bench; AD or Principal only.
If the team has no responsible adults and the game continues, anything that happens is now on the referees.

Here in Oregon, I believe only someone who is certified by the state to be a coach can take over coaching duties if the head coach is tossed and there are no assistants (or they got tossed, too). I had a game where my partner gave two quick T's to a coach and sent him packing with 12 seconds left in the game and his team leading by 8. The other team's coach (wisely) asked me if the parent who had come down from the stands to coach the team was certified by the state to coach. I asked him hoping he would just say "yes" (I couldn't possibly verify it so I'd have to take him at his word), but he said "no". The game was then forfeited and the team about to lose won the game 2-0. Fun fun.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

PY --

Don't worry too much about Tom. You'll get used to him. He can be a little too confrontive at times, but that's just his style. Sometimes his contributions can be really helpful. THe rest of us will be glad to argue with you ad infinitum without getting too personal, as long as you dont get too personal either.

Thank you. For some reason I'm feeling extra confrontational today. I honestly don't know why.

I still say, when I started I was seen and not heard. Maybe that is just my method of learning: listen to those with more experience because they know more than me. Pretty silly huh?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Thank you. For some reason I'm feeling extra confrontational today. I honestly don't know why.

I still say, when I started I was seen and not heard. Maybe that is just my method of learning: listen to those with more experience because they know more than me. Pretty silly huh?

Not at all silly. Just not the way everyone learns. Personally, I learn by arguing, and it's been a tough lesson for me that this doesn't always wash with everyone. You probably advanced faster than me partly because your nature of being a listening type fits in with the culture of reffing. Well, besides your obviously greater talent, judgment and physical condition.

I'm glad you noticed the obvious extra confrontational-ness today. It's better for you to see it yourself and deal with it (as we say to captains in the pre-game conference). Then we don't have to!

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Not at all silly. Just not the way everyone learns. Personally, I learn by arguing, and it's been a tough lesson for me that this doesn't always wash with everyone. You probably advanced faster than me partly because your nature of being a listening type fits in with the culture of reffing. Well, besides your obviously greater talent, judgment and physical condition.

I'm glad you noticed the obvious extra confrontational-ness today. It's better for you to see it yourself and deal with it (as we say to captains in the pre-game conference). Then we don't have to!

Sometimes I think you are too hard on yourself and don't give yourself enough credit. One thing about some sports and officiating as well, sometimes we have to give each other confidence in order to get the most out of the crew. You know the rules, you want to do the right thing and you have heard/read some very screwy scenarios. That can help a crew immensely.

Enough of all this gooey stuff, I'm supposed to be confrontational today.

[BktBallRef]

Group hug.......