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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

For fans of Silver State girls basketball I saw DaMonte Ranch destroy Dayton at DaMonte Ranch. I didn't realize Nevada used 3 man crews. I thought for that game 3 man was a little overkill.......

We do and it is, but do you really think that they would let us work three on only the boys games?

If you can make it down, there is a boys tournament at Reno High this week. I have the 6:30 games on Wed and Fri.

[mj]

Talk about an instant classic....WOW

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

We do and it is, but do you really think that they would let us work three on only the boys games?

In our AAA (large schools) conference we work 3-man for boys, 2-man for girls.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In our AAA (large schools) conference we work 3-man for boys, 2-man for girls.

Our state happens to follow a little piece of legislation known as Title IX.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Our state happens to follow a little piece of legislation known as Title IX.

It appears the only requirement here in regards to that is that the officials get paid the same fee for Boys & Girls games.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It appears the only requirement here in regards to that is that the officials get paid the same fee for Boys & Girls games.

What has the game fee got to do with treating girls fairly?

Title IX addresses giving girls the same opportunites and benefits as boys. If boys have access to the weight room, then girls should too. If the school provides uniforms for the boys team, they must provide them for the girls. If the school provides three officials for boys games, they should provide three officials for girls games.

Why do you provide three officials for boys? Because it's a better officiated game. Your situation is a Title IX action waiting to happen.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

What has the game fee got to do with treating girls fairly?

Title IX addresses giving girls the same opportunites and benefits as boys. If boys have access to the weight room, then girls should too. If the school provides uniforms for the boys team, they must provide them for the girls. If the school provides three officials for boys games, they should provide three officials for girls games.

Why do you rpovide three officials for boys? Because it's a better officiated game. Your situation is a Title IX action waiting to happen.

Don't ask me, I'm not a lawyer nor have I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express lately. All I know is the various games fees for the different conferences and private schools are always the same for Boys as they are for Girls. Whether it be $60 for AA, $70 for AAA, $55 for one school, or $60 for another. But, with one exception, the only 3-man we do during the regular season is AAA Boys. The exception is a Single-A school where we do 3-man V/JV doubleheaders for both Girls and Boys.

Know what's really dumb. In the post season tournaments AA does 3-man all the way through for Girls & Boys. But the AAA tournament, the Girls 1st-round gets 2-man but then the Semi-finals & Finals get 3-man.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Our state happens to follow a little piece of legislation known as Title IX.

Title IX has nothing to say about the quantity or quality of officials.

Nothing.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Title IX has nothing to say about the quantity or quality of officials.

Nothing.

http://www.nwlc.org/pdf/KeepingScore...csInMA2004.pdf

http://www.nd.edu/~frswrite/issues/2...turcotte.shtml

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...11/ai_n9119755

http://www.cacities.org/index.jsp?zo...iewStory=23140

http://www.womenslawproject.org/pres...tleIX_12-3.pdf

http://www.nacwaa.org/rc/rc_articlepr_california.php

(Do a "find" for "official" and "referee" in these for pertinent passages, if interested.)

I'm not an attorney, but I disagree. I'd be willing to bet that if it went to court, it would be found that it does apply to sports officials of the affected federally-assisted programs, insomuch as the officiating (quality and quantity) could be construed as an implied inclusion of either the "descrimination" or "benefits of" passage of the main Title IX document. It just hasn't happened yet, that I'm aware of. (Sport Law attorneys feel free to chime in here if it has.)

Even if you don't agree with this, officials are directly related to Title IX - particularly to how the expenditures on contest officials must be declared in every program's Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act report - (as this has a direct relation to how much a program costs to run) - a mandatory, annual report filed by each institution to the US Dept. of Ed.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In our AAA (large schools) conference we work 3-man for boys, 2-man for girls.

In northern VA AAA schools, we work 3-person for boys & girls.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

We do and it is, but do you really think that they would let us work three on only the boys games?

If you can make it down, there is a boys tournament at Reno High this week. I have the 6:30 games on Wed and Fri.

Why is it overkill? Are the games not better officiated with 3 officials? Oh wait, this rant is a thread I started a few days ago....never mind.

[tjones1]

I slept through the first 3 quarters. Woke up just in time for the good stuff....best finish I've ever seen! It's an instant classic!