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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 01:36pm
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to protest the ruling to see if there were such a rule
There are no protests. 5-4-2
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 01:52pm
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There are no protests. 5-4-2

My rules meeting this year in the state i live in allows protests if they are reasonable
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 02:42pm
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My rules meeting this year in the state i live in allows protests if they are reasonable
What state?
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 06:13pm
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What state?
And who defines reasonable? And is the meaning of "protest" stop the game and look up the rule? Who looks it up? Ho wmuch time can be taken? What happens if the coach reads the rule one way and the official another?
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 06:45pm
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My rules meeting this year in the state i live in allows protests if they are reasonable
That's got to be an SEC state.
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 06:58pm
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That's got to be an SEC state.
No, no no, no.....

The proper statement is "That's got to be a......wait for it......SEC state".
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 06:59pm
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No, no no, no.....

The proper statement is "That's got to be a......wait for it......SEC state".

Oops. . .poor mechanics on my part. It's been a while since I pulled that one out of the bag!
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2006, 07:44pm
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Actually, the state of Missouri has a protest of this nature in soccer.

The coach must notify the referee before play is restarted that he is protesting that the rules of the game are not being followed or applied properly and then has ten minutes to produce a rules book and prove his case.



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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 11:38am
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[QUOTE=Nevadaref]Actually, the state of Missouri has a protest of this nature in soccer.

The coach must notify the referee before play is restarted that he is protesting that the rules of the game are not being followed or applied properly and then has ten minutes to produce a rules book and prove his case.
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 12:37pm
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Actually, the state of Missouri has a protest of this nature in soccer.

The coach must notify the referee before play is restarted that he is protesting that the rules of the game are not being followed or applied properly and then has ten minutes to produce a rules book and prove his case.


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Absolutely insane! Is there a limit to how many times this can happen in a game? Is there any consequence for the coach being wrong, which he almost inevitably will be? I'd suggest a finger. Once the coach is out of those, no more protests (unless he wants to offer another part of his anatomy. . .).
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 07:35pm
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What state is that, and what is considered "reasonable"?
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 07:44pm
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I am from missouri
Reasonable--10 seconds on the free throw line or lost of the coaching box after a T or anything thats consider to be correctable in the rule book or if the score counts after a player and/or team control foul

Not reasonable--thats not a foul (block/charge) stuff like that
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 07:59pm
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Calif. volleyball is similar. Coach can challenge the existence of a specific rule, but not judgment calls. If the coach is right the ruling is corrected, if he/she is wrong the coach is penalized by having to burn a timeout; if no timeouts are left then the coach is penalized with a point to the other team, and if applicable, loss of rally.

If all things were equal, the BB coach could challenge that a "rule" exists that requires the free throw shooter to shoot the ball w/i 10 seconds; but could not challenge whether or not 10 seconds actually expired.
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 09:22pm
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I am from missouri
Reasonable--10 seconds on the free throw line or lost of the coaching box after a T or anything thats consider to be correctable in the rule book or if the score counts after a player and/or team control foul

Not reasonable--thats not a foul (block/charge) stuff like that
You're not really serious, are you?

10 seconds on the FT line is a judgment call -as to the official's counting speed. Loss of the coaching box is a simple rule that's been in forever. None of those are correctable.

If a coach ever pulled a rule book on me re: any kinda crap like that, he'd be reading it with his dashboard lights in the parking lot.

Are you sure that you're not just confusing an "appeal" with the normal correctable error procedure as laid out in R2-10 and R5-8-4?

Is there any else from Missouri that can confirm that they've got a system like that there?
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2007, 10:02pm
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The system as described (able only to challenge the existence of a rule such as punching violation or 10 seconds to shoot a freethrow or traveling on a throw-in) seems "reasonable." Lord knows it might educate the occasional referee and coach.
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