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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:12pm
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Each team fined $500,000 (Has that ever happened before?)

Carmello - 15 game sit
Robinson and Smith - 10 game sits.
Plus some additional suspensions

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:24pm
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stern says the fines are a message

Stern says the 500k fines are a message that they are serious about cleaning up the league...yet he lets Thomas continue coaching after a threat. Saying he only used definite knowledge for suspensions. Thomas admits telling Anthony not to go to the paint, but it was meant as a "sportsmanship" lecture .......I ain't buying that part of it....I like the suspensions for the players though, seem about right to me...
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:32pm
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Why suspend Isiah?

I think ownership for the Knicks NEEDS TO fire him. I cannot remember the last time anyone in life was given so many second chances after so many screw ups. And by so many screw ups I mean the same screw ups many times.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:39pm
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fire/suspend

Firing is a good idea, the suspension needs to come from the NBA for initiating the problem to begin with....
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:41pm
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Here is the thing, none of us were there. You do not know what context things were said or who heard them. I do agree what Thomas said. Why have two of your stars in the game at that point? Now the Nuggets are paying for this a lot more than the Knicks will after this fight. The Knicks are not likely going to make the playoffs. A game or two could keep the Nuggets from having home-court advantage and advancing in the playoffs. I hope it was worth it.

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:53pm
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yep it was a dumb move by all concerned

Yeah, they didn't need to be in there, and now they (nuggies) can find out how good they are without the leagues leading scorer...now they will really pursue the Answer LOL...
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 01:57pm
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here's the thing -- these guys are professionals and I dont expect to hear any whining about "boo hoo -- we are getting our asses kicked and the starters are still in." Suck it up and put a better product out there if you are continually getting your butt handed to you -- period this isnt popwarner basektball.

You put a crap product on the floor and you get flushed well thats the bed you made -- get real comfortable. I think the new james bond should have been officiating this game -- throw diplomacy out the window -- and the knicks (except David lee -- I like the guy and his hustle reminds me of Charles Oakley).
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 02:06pm
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here's the thing -- these guys are professionals and I dont expect to hear any whining about "boo hoo -- we are getting our asses kicked and the starters are still in." Suck it up and put a better product out there if you are continually getting your butt handed to you -- period this isnt popwarner basektball.

You put a crap product on the floor and you get flushed well thats the bed you made -- get real comfortable. I think the new james bond should have been officiating this game -- throw diplomacy out the window -- and the knicks (except David lee -- I like the guy and his hustle reminds me of Charles Oakley).
First of all this is not Pop Warner, Little League or JH ball. This is the pros. Like it or not there are codes of respect. I cannot think of a single sport where there are not certain codes that players and coaches live by to some extent at the pro level. Even at the college and HS levels there are certain things you do not do or you will piss off the opponent and sometimes the officials. Ever see a team up by 50 keep on the press? I am not saying actions that are advocated are justified or the right thing to do. But we would all be naive to think that doing certain things to embarrass or to show up an opponent is not apart of the thinking of many that play and participate.

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 02:15pm
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JR -- I am not saying that its the right thing to do -- but why should one team change their strategy on how they want to play their whole game because their opponent sucks. I mean these guys get paid millions a year, these coaches have the job security of the president of Iraq, and most of them whether winning or losing have the same lack of sportsmanship that might have been present 30 or 40 years ago.

Take the lakers game yesterday versus the wizards -- one of the qizards players had a fairly open fast break that smush parker caught up to and fouled the guy and while he fouled him he held on to him to keep him from falling -- what did the wizards player say "instead of thanks for keeping me up" he got in smush's face and started trash talking. The foul was clean and smush made a good play on the ball but the fact remains that the Knicks should take their lumps and the next time they play the nuggets they might want to try to score more than the nuggets. simple plan -- however they will fail.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 02:22pm
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We're talking about, what, a 20 point lead? It's not like they were winning by 80. Isaiah's comments strike me as premeditation. I would hope that, even lacking definitive information, Stern had a word with Thomas.
Getting embarrassed is one thing, tackling a shooter from behind is not an appropriate response; I don't care who you are. It's not quite like throwing a hit-and-run sucker punch, but still....
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Ever see a team up by 50 keep on the press?
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How about that 201-78 NCAA-M game recently?
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