NBA...at it again!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The foul definitely warranted an ejection. Take a look again at the clubbing motion of his (Marty Collins) left arm to the neck of JR Smith.

Welll, I disagree. I don't think he would have been ejected based on the foul alone.

[Larks]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WXDDwwX1jWs

Thats the video link again. Hurry - you tube deleted the last link due to NBA copyright rules.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Larks

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WXDDwwX1jWs

Thats the video link again. Hurry - you tube deleted the last link due to NBA copyright rules.

Thanks for the link.

I don't know if the original foul was worthy of an ejection or not by NBA standards but if not then the NBA better rethink this.

Isaiah doesn't want to get embarrased at home in the closing minute? Then Isaiah should have gotten a better product to put on the floor.

I agree that Carmello's slap & run makes him look bad. I don't think it will make a difference to the typical fan though.

BTW, I just read this statement that was issued yesterday.

Last night's altercation with the Knicks escalated further than it should have. I take full responsibility for my actions in the matter. In the heat of the moment I let my emotions get the best of me. I apologize to the fans, the Denver Nuggets, the NBA, my mother and my family for the embarrassment I have caused them. I ask you all for your forgiveness.

"I also want to make a personal apology to Mardy Collins and his family. My actions were inexcusable, and I am sorry for making this an even more embarrassing situation.

"What makes this all the more painful is that this was one of the most important weeks of my life. I just realized one of my biggest dreams when we opened the Youth Center in Baltimore that bares my name. To see the community excited and hundreds of kids smiling was an incredible feeling. Now the thought of thousands of kids seeing this incident on TV pains me. This is not the example I want to set.

"It's my hope that we work to move forward from this event, and never let something like this happen again."
-- Carmelo Anthony

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Isaiah doesn't want to get embarrased at home in the closing minute? Then Isaiah should have gotten a better product to put on the floor.

Lost in all the fooferaw was the fact that Denver had 3 subs at the table waiting to go in the game when the flagrant foul on the layup occurred.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Lost in all the fooferaw was the fact that Denver had 3 subs at the table waiting to go in the game when the flagrant foul on the layup occurred.

I didn't know that.

Anyway, until the NBA includes a provision for a team to throw in the towel during the game all this nonsense about being embarrased is just that - nonsense.

There was a time during the 80's/early 90's when teams like the Lakers spent 3 qtrs going up big then give an exhibition during the 4th qtr that Chick Hearn called "showtime". I don't recall anybody ever taking out Magic Johnson for dunking an alley-oop over him with a 25 point lead in the 4th qtr.

If the Knick players think their manhood is somehow wrapped up in getting an old fashioned azz-whooping then they should take it up with the guy who hired them to play on the team to begin with.

[Jimgolf]

My previous post on this was incorrect. Robbie Robinson did get involved, seperating Jeffries from one of the Nuggets. I hope I wasn't contributing to whatever caused the thread to be deleted.

Some general questions:
1- What should be the role of officials as this kind of melee develops? I thought Bavetta did a good job of quieting the initial mess, and if the Nuggets had gotten Anthony out of there, this might have been a minor incident.

2-Before the hard foul by Collins, Smith lowered his shoulder and pounded into Collins. Incidental contact? Or was this already a defensive foul because Collins didn't have LGP?

3-Isaiah Thomas was clearly talking to Anthony during the previous lull in the game. When you see this type of thing, do you say anything to the coach? Like maybe "Coach your own players!", or is this something to avoid entirely?


Note: When people argue that it's OK to run up the score at certain levels, this incident might be used as an example as to why that may not be such a good idea. Food for thought.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Welll, I disagree. I don't think he would have been ejected based on the foul alone.

What about if this were a HS game and you were calling it?