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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 02:37pm
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Violation?
A player secures the ball while on their back and sits up? Never moving the position of their butt.

A player is on two knees when they secure the ball and goes to one knee?
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 02:50pm
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A player secures the ball while on their back and sits up? Never moving the position of their butt.

A player is on two knees when they secure the ball and goes to one knee?
No violation

violation
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 03:00pm
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No violation
- unless he moves his "pivot cheek". HEEHEEHEE
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 03:05pm
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A player secures the ball while on their back and sits up? Never moving the position of their butt.
Legal. Case Book Situation 4.44.5.B
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A player is on two knees when they secure the ball and goes to one knee?
Violation. Case Book Situations 4.44.5.C & D
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 04:48pm
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A player secures a loose ball with both knees in contact with the floor. That player could start a dribble (or the obvious - pass, try for a goal, etc...)correct?

But, that player can't go to one knee - they have to reamin on two knees and if not do one of the above - it would be a travel?
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 05:18pm
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A player secures a loose ball with both knees in contact with the floor. That player could start a dribble (or the obvious - pass, try for a goal, etc...)correct?
Correct. They can pass, begin a dribble, try for goal, or request a time-out.
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But, that player can't go to one knee - they have to reamin on two knees and if not do one of the above - it would be a travel?
They cannot go from two knees to one knee while holding the ball. That is a traveling violation under the following rule (with specific support from the previously cited Case Book Situations):

4-44-5-b. A player holding the ball after gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2006, 07:18pm
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- unless he moves his "pivot cheek". HEEHEEHEE
Which would make a 'one cheek sneak' a violation AND a foul.
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