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Johnny Ringo Wed Dec 13, 2006 02:37pm
Violation?
 
A player secures the ball while on their back and sits up? Never moving the position of their butt.

A player is on two knees when they secure the ball and goes to one knee?

just another ref Wed Dec 13, 2006 02:50pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
A player secures the ball while on their back and sits up? Never moving the position of their butt.

A player is on two knees when they secure the ball and goes to one knee?
No violation

violation

Mark Padgett Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:00pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref
No violation
- unless he moves his "pivot cheek". HEEHEEHEE :p

HawkeyeCubP Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
A player secures the ball while on their back and sits up? Never moving the position of their butt.
Legal. Case Book Situation 4.44.5.B
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
A player is on two knees when they secure the ball and goes to one knee?
Violation. Case Book Situations 4.44.5.C & D

Johnny Ringo Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:48pm
A player secures a loose ball with both knees in contact with the floor. That player could start a dribble (or the obvious - pass, try for a goal, etc...)correct?

But, that player can't go to one knee - they have to reamin on two knees and if not do one of the above - it would be a travel?

HawkeyeCubP Wed Dec 13, 2006 05:18pm
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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
A player secures a loose ball with both knees in contact with the floor. That player could start a dribble (or the obvious - pass, try for a goal, etc...)correct?
Correct. They can pass, begin a dribble, try for goal, or request a time-out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo
But, that player can't go to one knee - they have to reamin on two knees and if not do one of the above - it would be a travel?
They cannot go from two knees to one knee while holding the ball. That is a traveling violation under the following rule (with specific support from the previously cited Case Book Situations):

4-44-5-b. A player holding the ball after gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.

26 Year Gap Wed Dec 13, 2006 07:18pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
- unless he moves his "pivot cheek". HEEHEEHEE :p
Which would make a 'one cheek sneak' a violation AND a foul.


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