Interesting mechanic

[Old School]

Game management gentlemen, that's what we are talking about here. Most of the time the players are not doing this intentionally, they are distracted focusing on there next play, etc. That's a lot of pressure for a young man or woman in high school. I've even seen this with the men. They are not in any way trying to show you up. They are caught up in the moment. I always tell them to come over here. The key to look for IMHO, is if the player hears you. If they don't, how can you expect them to do what you are telling them to do. Get there attention first, once you got that, then tell them to come over here. Dropping the ball on them and starting your count is poor game management skills, IMO. Nobody going to lose any money or die if you take a few extra seconds to get the teams out of the huddle or get the player to come over to you. One of the things that works for me and I have gotten much better at this over time. I will tell the inbounder, 3 pt line, 3 pt line! That's where the ball went out.

Originally Posted by Old School

The key to look for IMHO, is if the player hears you. If they don't, how can you expect them to do what you are telling them to do. Get there attention first, once you got that, then tell them to come over here. Dropping the ball on them and starting your count is poor game management skills, IMO.

I have to disagree with you on this Ol' Boy. First off, from the sound of the OP, it seemed apparent that the player was aware of the refs directions, as he hustled right over and took the throw from the proper spot. You shouldn't have to stand there playing games with the thrower. I don't think anybody here would just drop the ball and start their count without first giving the thrower-in a chance to get to the proper spot.

Nobody going to lose any money or die if you take a few extra seconds to get the teams out of the huddle or get the player to come over to you.

Nobody is making this claim at all, but it is poor game management on your part IMHO, to let teams take advantage of you by giving them those extra seconds. Are you controlling the game or are the coaches?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by PYRef

Nobody is making this claim at all, but it is poor game management on your part IMHO, to let teams take advantage of you by giving them those extra seconds. Are you controlling the game or are the coaches?

Great, great point! So glad you mention this. Yes, I am still controlling the game but I am giving them a little too. We got to all work together out here. A little give and take won't hurt, especially here. The way I like to say it; is investing some good will. I'm building some goodwill points to be used later in the game, should I need to. Rarely, have I had to cash in those goodwill points. Almost everytime, opposite of rarely, the coach and/or player does something good back for me. Building goodwill is a good thing. Goodwill also carrys over to the next time you have that coach or players.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Old School

Game management gentlemen, that's what we are talking about here. Most of the time the players are not doing this intentionally, they are distracted focusing on there next play, etc. That's a lot of pressure for a young man or woman in high school. I've even seen this with the men. They are not in any way trying to show you up. They are caught up in the moment. I always tell them to come over here. The key to look for IMHO, is if the player hears you. If they don't, how can you expect them to do what you are telling them to do. Get there attention first, once you got that, then tell them to come over here. Dropping the ball on them and starting your count is poor game management skills, IMO. Nobody going to lose any money or die if you take a few extra seconds to get the teams out of the huddle or get the player to come over to you. One of the things that works for me and I have gotten much better at this over time. I will tell the inbounder, 3 pt line, 3 pt line! That's where the ball went out.

Agree with the approach, not with the intent.

Make the damn player come to you without putting the ball on the floor. It's a much stronger statement of control.

I'm not interested in anybody's good will.

[Ed Maeder]

I'm with you on this one Dan. Mechanic or not I'm making them come to the spot.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I'm not interested in anybody's good will.

Merry Christmas to you, too!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Merry Christmas to you, too!

Tiny Tim weighs in.