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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 12:25pm
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Old School must be a great fisherman b/c he sure is reeling y'all in with his bait.
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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 12:48pm
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the player looked a bit shocked almost like -- "wow he saw this -- shoot I dont know what to do I wasn't expecting the ref to see that. Oh well coach will kill me so I best get out of here ASAP."

And there are plenty of people out there with what I like to call "reality imbalance" -- you can all use this term as you like but send me a some kind of royalty when you do -- but it simply is that some people have the ability to overreact to certain situations because they cannot reasonably judge fair and reasonable retaliation (whether physical, emotional whatever it may be). This player threw his haymaker and continued running like nothing happened hoping the officials wouldnt notice. I guarantee if that player did anything to the ref he would be in jail on assault and battery charges and just when you think "oh well its as bad as it can be" it GETS WORSE. I think getting carted off the court in handcuffs or physically removed is just a bit worse than leaving on your own -- my 2cents.

"Hey home coach you see those 4 players brawling it out -- well I decided that I couldn't handle doing my job and ejecting him so I would like you to pass on to your 2 players involved -- oh wait make that 3 ummm nope 4 -- that they will be ejected and ummm yeah thank you."

"Hey visiting coach -- listen....huh?.......oh that's just a fight that could have been avoided if I had done my job but hey I don't want to get my little fingers wet so if you could at your convenience, or at as soon as #4 returns #12's eyeball if you could be a gem and have those 5 ummm no 4 players leave the gym please. I am sure they can continue this outside and not disrupt the game but coah please do that for me"

Yeah you tell the coach -- every ejection I have had which to date has been 0 -- would have gone like this -- *tweet* make my call and make sure everyone knows that player X has been ejected. Then after a few seconds when the dust settles let my partner know what just happened then inform the coach of the ejection and then the table -- then answer and of the coaches questions. But I guarantee in any ejection the FIRST PERSON to know other than myself will be THE PLAYER GETTING EJECTED. The explanation will go to the coach.
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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 01:38pm
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And there are plenty of people out there with what I like to call "reality imbalance" -- you can all use this term as you like but send me a some kind of royalty when you do -- but it simply is that some people have the ability to overreact to certain situations because they cannot reasonably judge fair and reasonable retaliation (whether physical, emotional whatever it may be)
Hogwash!

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I guarantee if that player did anything to the ref he would be in jail on assault and battery charges and just when you think "oh well its as bad as it can be" it GETS WORSE. I think getting carted off the court in handcuffs or physically removed is just a bit worse than leaving on your own -- my 2cents.
I guarantee you that if this player would have cold-cock you, you would be riding out of there on your back! Career possibly over! Oh yea, he'll go out in handcuff's alright but I think you might be hurting a little more.

You ever wonder why the officials in the NBA didn't give Ben Wallace the you're out of here hand toss signal like this ref did here, after he clearly pushed Ron Artest in the famous Detriot brawl? Think about that a minute before you shoot off your smart mouth again. Maybe, just maybe the NBA knows a little about running up on a man twice your size that's been provoked. We'll deal with it at the table. Notify the coaches, which is proper procedure when a player has foul out of the game or ejected.

Not everyone deals with pressure the same.....
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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 01:55pm
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just for the record im 6'6" 210 -- and not the out of shape kind --

and a NBA shove is just a tech -- same thing in HS -- I would not eject a player for a shove unless it leads to a fight -- 2 players shove each other T em up end it move on. Detroit was a shove by Ben and a fight between Artest and the fans -- eject the fans and artest -- if artest retaliated like that towards ben (assuming HS) eject them both -- once again sometimes the retaliation far outweighs the inital action -- judge accordingly and punish accordingly. Shove from A1 to B1 and B1 decks A1 who falls back -- eject B1 T up A1 depending on the severity of shove.
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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 03:33pm
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and a NBA shove is just a tech -- same thing in HS -- I would not eject a player for a shove unless it leads to a fight -- 2 players shove each other T em up end it move on. Detroit was a shove by Ben and a fight between Artest and the fans -- eject the fans and artest -- if artest retaliated like that towards ben (assuming HS) eject them both -- once again sometimes the retaliation far outweighs the inital action -- judge accordingly and punish accordingly. Shove from A1 to B1 and B decks A1 who falls back -- eject B T up A depending on the severity of shove.
This is the very mind thought that started the problem. Ben Wallace should have been ejected, no questions asked, just like Colon was. Ron, seeing that Ben had not been ejected became outraged because when he had done similar things in the past, he was ejected. He even stated this.

Let me get this straight, a shove by the biggest man on the court, that justs about separates your body parts is okay but a miss swing which looks like he could have been falling in that direction and you're tiptoeing to the tulips singing the you're out of here song. That's Interesting, hmmmmm......
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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 03:48pm
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You ever wonder why the officials in the NBA didn't give Ben Wallace the you're out of here hand toss signal like this ref did here, after he clearly pushed Ron Artest in the famous Detriot brawl?
That's stupid comment. What are you, 12?

Those officials had much bigger problems than Ben Wallace that night.

I heard Ronnie Garrettson tell Rasheed Wallace, "WHACK! Get out!" I don't think Garrettson had any concerns about his safety.
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Old Fri Dec 01, 2006, 03:57pm
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Old School must be a great fisherman b/c he sure is reeling y'all in with his bait.
It's not bait when every post is the same. It's just the SOS.
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