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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 03:27pm
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This situation came up in a game I officiated last night.
Team "A" is to inbound the ball after a time out. Team "A" also wants to sub in a player. The official score keeper notices the sub's number is not in the score book (her name in, wrong number listed). We assess a technical for the wrong number. My question is , does Team "A" retain possession or does Team "B" be awarded the ball?
This was a girls varsity basketball game(HIGH SCHOOL)(UIL)
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 03:32pm
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After the shots are taken by Team B, Team B would be given the ball for a throw-in at the division line opposite the table.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 03:33pm
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Team B gets 2 free throws and the ball at center for a throw-in for the penalty of the technical foul.

Who did you charge the 'T" to?
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 03:38pm
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This situation came up in a game I officiated last night.
Team "A" is to inbound the ball after a time out. Team "A" also wants to sub in a player. The official score keeper notices the sub's number is not in the score book (her name in, wrong number listed). We assess a technical for the wrong number. My question is , does Team "A" retain possession or does Team "B" be awarded the ball?
This was a girls varsity basketball game(HIGH SCHOOL)(UIL)

Did the sub actually become a player before this was brought to your attention?
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 03:40pm
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Who did you charge the 'T" to?
I knew this question was coming....
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 03:46pm
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Did the sub actually become a player before this was brought to your attention?
This was the question I had.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 04:02pm
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We assessed the technical to Team "A".
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 04:13pm
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Sub did come in to play.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 04:18pm
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We assessed the technical to Team "A".
Are you saying you assessed a team T, or did you assess it to the player as well?
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 04:20pm
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She had not been in the game prior to being substituted at this point.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 04:35pm
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Did the sub actually become a player before this was brought to your attention?
Given that the ball had yet to be inbounded by team A following the dead ball during which Team A attempted the substitution; I think it's safe to say they caught it in time to assess the T.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 04:46pm
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Given that the ball had yet to be inbounded by team A following the dead ball during which Team A attempted the substitution; I think it's safe to say they caught it in time to assess the T.
Are you saying if the player had been playing and the number was then found to be illegal, then the technical could not be called?
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 06:21pm
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Are you saying if the player had been playing and the number was then found to be illegal, then the technical could not be called?

yes -- this is something that has to be addressed when it happens -- once it happens its to late to penalize.

like when a team has 6 players on the court -- then you see one player go and sit down and now you count and say "hey there were 6" to late. you have to assess this when the penatly occurs. smart coach will call a timeout ASAP and get his players into a huddle asap and get it fixed.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 06:47pm
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The Player Had Not Been In The Game.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 06:49pm
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yes -- this is something that has to be addressed when it happens -- once it happens its to late to penalize.

like when a team has 6 players on the court -- then you see one player go and sit down and now you count and say "hey there were 6" to late. you have to assess this when the penatly occurs. smart coach will call a timeout ASAP and get his players into a huddle asap and get it fixed.
Incorrect. This is a book error, not an illegal number. It required a change in the book and is penalized as soon as it is discovered even if the player is already in the game.
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