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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 06:54pm
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Thanks, Cameron. You just saved me the effort of posting this when I check my rule book at home.

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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 07:24pm
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The Player Had Not Been In The Game.
How about preventative officiating?

Ok - so a team member was not in the book? Did the ball become live? Was this team member beckoned onto the floor?

If your answers are no to all the above - Why not give the coach the option to withdraw the sub or take the T to get her in? JV and lower - thats how I'd handle it for sure.

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the the rule deal with players not being in the book. She's not a player until I beckon her on to the floor or the ball becomes live right?

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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 09:00pm
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Larks, I might do this at JH level and below; if I thought of it. But I think by JV, we can reasonably expect the coaches to know what they're doing with the book.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 09:14pm
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How about preventative officiating?


Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the the rule deal with players not being in the book. She's not a player until I beckon her on to the floor or the ball becomes live right?

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That's correct. If the coach of team A realizes it and calls her back to the bench before she is beckoned then there is no penalty, but once she "legally enters the court" she is a player and the penalty is enforced.
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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 09:36pm
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Team "A" is to inbound the ball after a time out. Team "A" also wants to sub in a player. The official score keeper notices the sub's number is not in the score book
Hold up - Re-thinking this.....When did A6 become a player here? If she checked in prior to the time out, then lined up to participate in the throw in, I think we have to consider her a player. We would consider her a player vs. bench pers. if we called a T on her for say profanity in this case wouldn't we?

My thought process was more along the lines of if she never got player status....in that case, I let the coach have the option to buy her in or wait.

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Old Tue Nov 21, 2006, 10:48pm
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Hold up - Re-thinking this.....When did A6 become a player here? If she checked in prior to the time out, then lined up to participate in the throw in, I think we have to consider her a player. We would consider her a player vs. bench pers. if we called a T on her for say profanity in this case wouldn't we?

My thought process was more along the lines of if she never got player status....in that case, I let the coach have the option to buy her in or wait.

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That's what I was thinking - if she's at the table and hasn't been waved onto the court, we can give the coach the option of putting her back on the bench, or let her on with the T to correct the book. I was going under the impression the player went up to the table, and as she was waiting, the table figured out her number was wrong in the book.
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Old Wed Nov 22, 2006, 10:17am
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Incorrect. This is a book error, not an illegal number. It required a change in the book and is penalized as soon as it is discovered even if the player is already in the game.
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