Center Toss

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Old School

[2) That statement ties for the dumbest one ever made on this forum. Why can't they can't tip it with 2 hands? Isn't the ball gonna come back down? Ever heard of "gravity"?

Lah me....

I hate to ask what was the dumbest if you think that was dumb.

Why can't you tip the ball with both hands? Because it might look like you caught it and beep, other way. Because if your coach sees this, you might not be the jumper anymore for your team. We don't have to worry about the between the lines in the rulebook JR. So technically, I guess you are correct, but realistically, it might not be that smart for a jumper to do.[/quote]

Just because the coach might not want the jumper to do so, doesn't mean it doesn't happen or that it's illegal -- as you "thought'" it might be.

Isn't the ball gonna come back down? Ever heard of gravity? Oh my, I got to respond to that. The objective of the jump ball procedure is to toss the ball high enough so that the ball is touched by one or both jumper at it's highest point. If that doesn't happen, than it probably wasn't a good toss.

It's supposed to be touched "AFTER" it reaches its highest point, not "AT" its highest point. And, a "good" toss can be "stolen" (illegal, but it's still a good toss) or touched on the way back down.

Like I said, jump ball procedure needs to be taught

Agreed. It doesn't look good if the game starts with a mistake by the officials.

[Old School]

Bob Jenkins says; Just because the coach might not want the jumper to do so, doesn't mean it doesn't happen or that it's illegal -- as you "thought'" it might be.

If I "THOUGHT" he caught the ball Bob instead of tipping it with 2 hands, we're going the other way. Are we being a little anal here?

Bob says; It's supposed to be touched "AFTER" it reaches its highest point, not "AT" its highest point.

Seriously Bob, you need to get out more! There is life outside of basketball, seriously, there is! I going to recommend that you and JR spend some quality time with a member of the opposite sex.

Peace

[Dan_ref]

Looks like the thanksgiving turkey is making an early appearance

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Old School

If I "THOUGHT" he caught the ball Bob instead of tipping it with 2 hands, we're going the other way. Are we being a little anal here?

It appears that you, not surprisingly, missed the point. At 9:20 this morning (according to the post header) you said:

if one of the jumpers tipped it with two hands, which I don't think is legal anyway.

The whole point is that tipping the ball with two hands is legal, and counts as one of the two allowed touches.

[Snake~eyes]

Something obvious like that happens I'm going to blow my whistle and call the violation.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The whole point is that tipping the ball with two hands is legal, and counts as one of the two allowed touches.

I think if I allowed you to tip the ball with 2 hands, that would count as 2 touches and you better not touch the ball again, until it is touched by a non-jumper or hits the floor.

I also think you need to get out more......

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

I think if I allowed you to tip the ball with 2 hands, that would count as 2 touches and you better not touch the ball again, until it is touched by a non-jumper or hits the floor.

I also think you need to get out more......

Touching the ball with two hands at the same time is the same as separate touches?

What did I tell you about this goober, folks. T-R-O-L-L!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Old School

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So, um, how come you haven't answered the questions posed to you by other posters, including me? If you dislike what other posters have said, make your point and move on to the discussion at hand. But if you continue to ignore legitimate questions and just call names, you are proving his point.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Old School

I think if I allowed you to tip the ball with 2 hands, that would count as 2 touches and you better not touch the ball again, until it is touched by a non-jumper or hits the floor.

I also think you need to get out more......

And just why do you think that?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Old School

I think if I allowed you to tip the ball with 2 hands, that would count as 2 touches

Still wrong. Read the case plays.

[M&M Guy]

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Thanks, Bob. For someone who has only posted a couple of times, it was already getting out of control.

[Old School]

Who's out of control, me or you?

Here's the deal. When I work basketball games, I want to see basketball plays. I have never seen a jumper go up on a jump and tap it with both hands, never. Can you name a case? When you start doing stuff like that, that's not basketball and the caution flag goes up. Are we playing volleyball today, or are we playing bb? I'm here to ref bb, so volleyball players please leave the court.

So deep in the case book, it is ruled legal. Great! That's just what we all need to know. I don't think it does anyone any good to get to carried away with issues like this that's never likely to occur.

Peace

[M&M Guy]

So, Old School, are you a referee? If so, how long and what levels have you worked?

I assume you've come to this forum to receive and dispense knowledge, just like the rest of us. Most of us receive knowledge from those we know have more than us. Other times we might discuss situations that have happened to us on the court. If you are coming here for the first time simply dispensing your knowledge, it would be helpful to the rest of us to know a little more about you.