Help Please

[Junker]

I think the line of thinking is that there really shouldn't be a time when lead should have to call a 5 second violation. The lead is primarily there for post play. If a player is dribbling out front and then gets into the lane still legally guarded the T should be staying with the count. Besides that, it would be difficult to see a visual count from the lead on the baseline. Too many bodies in the way most of the time.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Junker

The lead is primarily there for post play. If a player is dribbling out front and then gets into the lane still legally guarded the T should be staying with the count.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Junker

Besides that, it would be difficult to see a visual count from the lead on the baseline.

So, are you saying just because no one can see your count, there shouldn't be one?

[Junker]

I was just saying that I think the difficulty seeing a visual count on the baseline might be one of the reasons they don't want the lead counting. In fact, I would guess that soon we'll use the NCAA mechanic of having the T chop the clock in on a baseline throw in. Different situation but the same difficulty.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Junker

I was just saying that I think the difficulty seeing a visual count on the baseline might be one of the reasons they don't want the lead counting. In fact, I would guess that soon we'll use the NCAA mechanic of having the T chop the clock in on a baseline throw in. Different situation but the same difficulty.

Understood.

I guess my point is no one seems to know exactly why, but most seem to accept it. I'm just questioning the mechanic based on the theory that it is allowing two sets of eyes on the ball.

[Ref_ Fred]

There is no written rule that I have found in the case, rule and officials manual. It may be a region by region situation. I have and been in games that a lead makes the call especially baseline outside the lane yet in front of lead and neither T or C primary and the lead makes the call on a trap.

[Junker]

I agree that it's one of those unwritten things. I can't remember seeing any high school officials in my area counting visually from the L. I know I was told early on never to do it so I don't.