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M&M Guy Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:01am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Straight to hell, right M&M??!!

Well, if I'm going as well, I might as well have someone show me the way... ;)

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
And isn't it nice that Rutledge found hisself a new chew toy to argue with...should we tell Gimlet how badly he's wasting his time, or just let him figure it out all by hisownself??

If he sticks around, he'll figure it out.

Now, I guess I'll stick in my two cents. I think sometimes the discussion becomes territorial: men's game vs. women's game. But, I still cannot understand the rational behind calling both fouls in that situation, because, by rule, either one happened, or the other, but not both. I think Rut has it right that we are allowing this call so that we do not appear to be "screwing" one team and coach out of a call. But since when do we base our calls on how the coach feels? I hope never.

This situation should never happen, with proper mechanics by a crew. But, stuff happens. And, in the case of the NCAA-W, I believe they have it right - either there was a block or a charge, but never both. So get together, come out with one call, and continue on with the game.

Gimlet25id Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:28am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
If he sticks around, he'll figure it out.

I'm not going anywhere. I enjoy the back & forth debate with Rut. I've learned that Rut is passionate about what he believes and will defend it to the end. Nothing wrong with that. The debate tends to lead to other discussion's that sometimes gets the brain moving the right direction and it has allowed me to learn a few things.
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I still cannot understand the rational behind calling both fouls in that situation, because, by rule, either one happened, or the other, but not both. I think Rut has it right that we are allowing this call so that we do not appear to be "screwing" one team and coach out of a call. But since when do we base our calls on how the coach feels? I hope never.
I agree. Lets just get the foul that matters. I'm not at all for penalizing a player that doesn't deserve the penalty.

Texref Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:28am

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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id

How are you guaranteeing you are getting the call correct? You might just pick the wrong one.

The bottom line is this should not happen. It is going to be a foul 2 seconds later than blowing the whistle too quickly and not making sure you did not see your partner.

As I stated before, this would not happen in the Men's side if the officials simply followed the mechanics.

Peace

This wouldn't happen at all if we all followed the proper procedures, would it? Bottom line is we don't. It has happened in two DI men's games already and it's the first week. I'm sure it has happened in a women's game as well, we just don't have the coverage of it. IT HAPPENS.

Gimlet25id Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:32am

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Originally Posted by Texref
This wouldn't happen at all if we all followed the proper procedures, would it? Bottom line is we don't. It has happened in two DI men's games already and it's the first week. I'm sure it has happened in a women's game as well, we just don't have the coverage of it. IT HAPPENS.

Your right. Its always preventable. The point is that it happens and it will always happen. The debate has been... which way is the best way to handle it after it happens?


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